All of this, except to say that he was actually alright in his first season (although never looked like a £2.5m player to me), and was utterly shithouse the seasons after that.
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Craig Mackail-Smith
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All of this, except to say that he was actually alright in his first season (although never looked like a £2.5m player to me), and was utterly shithouse the seasons after that.
Oh come on... Jon Obika? Leon Best? Chris Holroyd? Leroy Lita? Chris O'Grady? Roland Bergkamp? Stephen Dobbie? Adrian Colunga? To name a few...
lizard
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JCL - the new kid in town
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Geez i'd forgotten some of them, the ones that sprang to my mind were Manu, Molango, Turienzo, Paynter, Agdestein, Sandaza, Rodríguez and going way back my favourite, Jamie Moralee who couldn't ever stay onside....
Simon Morgan
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This is true. I must admit to never quite getting on with CMS as a player even prior to his arrival due to his general reliance on pace and power. Didn't have a tremendous amount of grace or class on the ball, something that I pretty much always look for in a striker.
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Damian Hilton, Dave Cameron, Andy Ansah, Mick Ferguson, Mark Farrington
Weststander
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Alan Biley - by the time he joined a skint Albion, he was a washed out has been, more interested maintaining his peroxide mullet.
sir albion
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Absolutely and what's more concerning is I've noticed that this Americanised crap is gaining support here at a rate of knots.....why o why do people here follow ice hockey and American bloody football grrrrrr?
Christ I'm lost for words at the idiocy of people.....
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
But given the relative transfer fees he might have been our most expensive failure, albeit not the actual worst.
Also Johnny Dixon who never actually kicked a ball for us in anger.
Yeah true , craig wasnt the worst weve signed , by a long way , but he wasnt good VFM was he ? ,probably amongst the worst value signings we have made ...
Megazone
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Would be interesting to know the total cost of all the players and compare it to the CMS transfer fee.
Loved the bloke. OK, he wasn't Diego Costa.
But not everyone can be a ****.
But not everyone can be a ****.
rocker959
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Good luck to him.
AlastairWatts
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What's revealing about all this is that the manager at Luton is, of course, Nathan Jones. He, more than most, must have a pretty good idea of CMS' abilities - and he's let him go,presumably on a free. Says it all, doesn't it?
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Footballer in his mid 30's released by a club. He must be shit then...
Easy 10
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Well, I think we all so DESPERATELY wanted him to do well. I had a hard-on for 2 days after we signed him, and was convinced he'd do brilliantly for us. But that first season turned into a gradual realisation that he wasn't quite as good as I thought he was going to be...then the injuries kicked in, and as you say, it was just shithouse CENTRAL from there. An expensive flop, all the more infuriating for the fact that we (in effect) binned off Murray for him. This PL adventure would've arrived a lot sooner had that not happened, but hey ho. Alls well that ends well.
Lower West Stander
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Some harsh comments on here. I seem to remember him getting injured when he was on a decent goal scoring run and never being quite the same afterwards. The team was never really set up to play to his strengths and never really adapted to how different he was to Murray
He did run around like a headless chicken but some of his support play was very good. I think the fault lay as much with Poyet as it did with him.
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He did run around like a headless chicken but some of his support play was very good. I think the fault lay as much with Poyet as it did with him.
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Yes that may be but there was also value in that. I remember one game in particular (can't recall who against) where we were 0-0 at about 60 mins and CMS was taken off. As soon as that happened their defence pushed 10-20 metres further up which allowed the rest of their midfield more freedom and they scored within 15 mins. He may not have been as prolific as we'd have liked but he defended from the front and didn't let the opposition to build up from the back.
I don't think I'm being particularly harsh, and nor is Easy 10. His first season was ok, he was absolutely superb in the Friday night home 3-3 draw with Leeds and later scored a sublime volley at Burnley. I think he scored 13 that season - didn't pull up any trees but a perfectly acceptable return for a player at that price in his first season.
By then we could all see what we had bought though - a player without the required composure or footballing brain for a team with promotion aspirations, and the Palace 1-3 FFS Murray game sadly showed us what we were missing. Murray was actually bang average in that first season with the Nigels, but in that one game he looked far more comfortable at that level than CMS.
After that season, it was going to go one of two ways - he was either going to show he was learning how to play against better defenders and improve his composure, or he was going to continue being over reliant on his pace and never step up.
Yes he got injured and was never the same afterwards, but well before then he was starting to prove a very expensive failure.
No complaints about his efforts on the field from me though, and for that I will always wish him well. I just rather wish we had never signed him.
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