Coronavirus and the USA

[Bozza]

And here we go again....

Some areas of Missouri are the first to reach the tipping point of Delta prevalence where the steady decline of cases turns around and hospital beds begin to fill up.

It's one of the areas with very low vaccination take-up to date, making it ripe for this more transmissible variant to rip through.

As the U.S. emerges from the COVID-19 crisis, Missouri is becoming a cautionary tale for the rest of the country: It is seeing an alarming rise in cases because of a combination of the fast-spreading delta variant and stubborn resistance among many people to getting vaccinated.

Intensive care beds are filling up with surprisingly young, unvaccinated patients, and staff members are getting burned out fighting a battle that was supposed to be in its final throes.

The hope among some health leaders is that the rest of the U.S. might at least learn something from Missouri’s plight.

“If people elsewhere in the country are looking to us and saying, ‘No thanks’ and they are getting vaccinated, that is good,” said Erik Frederick, chief administrative officer at Mercy Hospital Springfield, which has been inundated with COVID-19 patients as the variant first identified in India rips through the largely non-immunized community. “We will be the canary.”​

Source of the above and a good summary of the current situation in Missouri >>> https://apnews.com/article/mo-state...demic-health-89fa995c59397228d8d56e1ab45890ab

Get jabbed people - they work!

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Seems some Americans are now losing patience with the anti - vaxxers

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/27/health/coronavirus-vaccination-hesitancy-delta.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

 

[Weststander]

A couple of days old … Biden’s still blocking entrants to the US, including from Canada. 2021 shirley now another wash out for hopes of travelling there.

18 months and possibly more of complete isolation, that should have a devastating effect on a huge tourism sector.

I’m guessing surviving due to its internal market of 330m folk?

 

[Bozza]

A couple of days old … Biden’s still blocking entrants to the US, including from Canada. 2021 shirley now another wash out for hopes of travelling there.

18 months and possibly more of complete isolation, that should have a devastating effect on a huge tourism sector.

I’m guessing surviving due to its internal market of 330m folk?

It's far from complete isolation. Residents from many countries can still enter the US directly, including those from Mexico and Canada. They have to fly though, it's the land borders that are closed.

Many of those free to enter the US can do so from countries that have been, or are, in worse positions than the UK too.

And, finally, UK residents are free to enter the US, just not directly from the UK. You can enjoy two weeks on the beaches of the likes of Barbados or Mexico and then enter the US restriction free.

 

[LamieRobertson]

It's far from complete isolation. Residents from many countries can still enter the US directly, including those from Mexico and Canada. They have to fly though, it's the land borders that are closed.

Many of those free to enter the US can do so from countries that have been, or are, in worse positions than the UK too.

And, finally, UK residents are free to enter the US, just not directly from the UK. You can enjoy two weeks on the beaches of the likes of Barbados or Mexico and then enter the US restriction free.

So that wall was built after all.

 

[Weststander]

It's far from complete isolation. Residents from many countries can still enter the US directly, including those from Mexico and Canada. They have to fly though, it's the land borders that are closed.

Many of those free to enter the US can do so from countries that have been, or are, in worse positions than the UK too.

And, finally, UK residents are free to enter the US, just not directly from the UK. You can enjoy two weeks on the beaches of the likes of Barbados or Mexico and then enter the US restriction free.

Simon Calder’s mentioned the UK to Mexico to US ruse/route for ages. Are you tempted? I can’t be bothered just now, but will in 2022 if Biden’s stance continues.

 

[Bozza]

Simon Calder’s mentioned the UK to Mexico to US ruse/route for ages. Are you tempted? I can’t be bothered just now, but will in 2022 if Biden’s stance continues.

I had a serious look at going via Mexico or Barbados for a while. I've got a shitload of Virgin miles and there was decent availability to get PE/Upper into Barbados and back home from Miami.

Getting a dog sitter for 4-5 weeks was the problem - both of our regular sitters were booked up. Beyond that, there's the nagging doubt of something going wrong, which could be any of...

- US banning entry completely from your first stop. Unlikely, but a possibility.
- UK making the US 'red', requiring hotel quarantine upon arrival. Again, unlikely but it was always clear to me that one Delta took a grip over there, things could worsen rapidly.
- One/some of us group testing positive before flying home.

The latter was the main potential issue for us, since having to wait it out in the US before being able to fly home would mean Mrs B missing the start of a new job in September and Bozza jnr missing the start of secondary school.

If it was just me, I'd not think twice.

 

[Weststander]

I had a serious look at going via Mexico or Barbados for a while. I've got a shitload of Virgin miles and there was decent availability to get PE/Upper into Barbados and back home from Miami.

Getting a dog sitter for 4-5 weeks was the problem - both of our regular sitters were booked up. Beyond that, there's the nagging doubt of something going wrong, which could be any of...

- US banning entry completely from your first stop. Unlikely, but a possibility.
- UK making the US 'red', requiring hotel quarantine upon arrival. Again, unlikely but it was always clear to me that one Delta took a grip over there, things could worsen rapidly.
- One/some of us group testing positive before flying home.

The latter was the main potential issue for us, since having to wait it out in the US before being able to fly home would mean Mrs B missing the start of a new job in September and Bozza jnr missing the start of secondary school.

If it was just me, I'd not think twice.

Attrition, we’re down to just 2 out of 4 in Ibiza, for not dissimilar reasons including Mrs.W who’s a practitioner at Worthing Hospital …. she was stressed at the thought of testing positive here or the location going amber+/red.

A Sussex cattery owner told me that the savvy are booking their slots ages ahead, before looking at flights!

 

[Bozza]

Attrition, we’re down to just 2 out of 4 in Ibiza, for not dissimilar reasons including Mrs.W who’s a practitioner at Worthing Hospital …. she was stressed at the thought of testing positive here or the location going amber+/red.

A Sussex cattery owner told me that the savvy are booking their slots ages ahead, before looking at flights!

I was going to do that much earlier in the year but given all the uncertainty, I didn't think that was fair on the dog-sitter(s), since they may well turn business away due to my booking, which ultimately could be cancelled.

Maybe I need to be a bit more selfish!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

A couple of days old … Biden’s still blocking entrants to the US, including from Canada. 2021 shirley now another wash out for hopes of travelling there.

18 months and possibly more of complete isolation, that should have a devastating effect on a huge tourism sector.

I’m guessing surviving due to its internal market of 330m folk?

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He is mental.

The list of banned countries is basically UK/EU/China/Iran/Brazil

South America/most of Africa is fine.

 

[Weststander]

He is mental.

The list of banned countries is basically UK/EU/China/Iran/Brazil

South America/most of Africa is fine.

Canada by air fine, by road not fine.

Mexico was okay including Brits, both when Mexico had bad numbers, Brits Delta variant.

Their travel industry are bemoaning Biden’s inconsistencies.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Canada by air fine, by road not fine.

Mexico was okay including Brits, both when Mexico had bad numbers, Brits Delta variant.

Their travel industry are bemoaning Biden’s inconsistencies.

The ban he complained about...

 

[Badger]

Canada said they'd be willing to open up the land border next week. This was after months of the US wanting Canada to do so.

Then as soon as Canada announces it, the US decide they want it closed for at least another month

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Canada said they'd be willing to open up the land border next week. This was after months of the US wanting Canada to do so.

Then as soon as Canada announces it, the US decide they want it closed for at least another month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng

 

[dwayne]

I think the states were close to opening up to the UK, EU etc but the Delta bump has squashed that plan.

October seems a bit more likely now.

Can't really blame them for that.

I still don't understand how Mexico is so freely open both ways, it's bizarre. When I was in Mexico city I could almost feel Corona in the air, it was rife, yet I could just take a flight into the states with hardly any checks or hassles.

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[Kinky Gerbil]

Looks like NYC have brought in Vaccine passports

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...ine-proof-indoor-activities-covid-19-1206737/

 

[nicko31]

Redneck States in the RED, the North East alas has the highest vax rates

Florida's COVID-19 hospitalizations reach all-time high of 11,515 patients

https://www.fox13news.com/news/flor...tions-reaches-all-time-high-of-11515-patients

 

[Bozza]

Visiting the US could be about to get difficult again, just after things eased up...

The Biden administration is preparing stricter testing requirements for all travelers entering the United States, including returning Americans, to curb the spread of the potentially dangerous omicron variant, according to three federal health officials.

As part of an enhanced winter covid strategy Biden is expected to announce Thursday, U.S. officials would require everyone entering the country to be tested one day before boarding flights, regardless of their vaccination status or country of departure. Administration officials are also considering a requirement that all travelers get retested within three to five days of arrival.

In addition, they are debating a controversial proposal to require all travelers, including U.S. citizens, to self-quarantine for seven days, even if their test results are negative. Those who flout the requirements might be subject to fines and penalties, the first time such penalties would be linked to testing and quarantine measures for travelers in the United States.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Visiting the US could be about to get difficult again, just after things eased up...

The Biden administration is preparing stricter testing requirements for all travelers entering the United States, including returning Americans, to curb the spread of the potentially dangerous omicron variant, according to three federal health officials.

As part of an enhanced winter covid strategy Biden is expected to announce Thursday, U.S. officials would require everyone entering the country to be tested one day before boarding flights, regardless of their vaccination status or country of departure. Administration officials are also considering a requirement that all travelers get retested within three to five days of arrival.

In addition, they are debating a controversial proposal to require all travelers, including U.S. citizens, to self-quarantine for seven days, even if their test results are negative. Those who flout the requirements might be subject to fines and penalties, the first time such penalties would be linked to testing and quarantine measures for travelers in the United States.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/

Which wont be lifted till March/April

 

[DIFFBROOK]

Can understand the purpose now, but once country has more self induced infections than travelling in, its more questionable.

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