[Politics] Corbyn backing the other side..........again

[Ernest]

Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!

Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs

 

[BLOCK F]

Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs

Hi Ernie, yes, I have heard of paragraphs and I have used three, but my random thoughts were not meant to be a model of English grammar.......I didn't think Jezza warranted it.
Shite to you maybe, but true nevertheless!

 

[portslade seagull]

Try reading the manifesto. It was entirely coasted as opposed to the Tory one.

Coasted is about right depends which way the wind is blowing

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Well if we want better services and in general a nicer country to live in , none of us that can will mind paying a couple more pence in the pound tax. Look at the Scandinavian model.

Looking at Scandinavian models is ALWAYS a sensible course of action.

 

[portslade seagull]

Looking at Scandinavian models is ALWAYS a sensible course of action.

Expensive nights out though if you drink. Probably push a few to give up

 

[Commander]

Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs

If you didn’t read it, how do you know it’s shite?

What you actually meant was “Not agreeing with me, so not worth reading as I’m too set in my ways”. Which is a bit pathetic, really.

 

[Ernest]

If you didn’t read it, how do you know it’s shite?

What you actually meant was “Not agreeing with me, so not worth reading as I’m too set in my ways”. Which is a bit pathetic, really.

Too long . Didn’t read

 

[Commander]

Too long . Didn’t read

Must be a thoroughly miserable existence.

 

[Hampster Gull]

He's a democratic socialist and in most of Europe he'd be mainstream. John McDonnell is closer to a Marxist.

His stance against the EU because it’s too capitalist is not one democratic socialists in most of Europe believe. He and John are one and the same, except John is smarter

 

[Hampster Gull]

Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs

Shite and Corbyn fit very nicely

 

[Hastings gull]

Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!

Excellent post, but please stop posting such common sense on here.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!

I'd suggest reading the manifesto.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Excellent post, but please stop posting such common sense on here.

I'd suggest reading the manifesto

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Yeah 2p/3p is fine with me but some might kick up about it but with all the promises being made by Corbyn and his cohorts it will be nearer 20p and even then it will still be short

Please provide evidence of this.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Pray tell how all this will be paid for ??

Read the manifesto. It was fully costed as opposed to the Tory one.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

This is all true and concerning. It does not detract, however, from the soppiness of the original post. We sadly have more than enough reasons for not voting labour right now, so there is no need to spin a fantasy narrative.

I'd suggest you read the manifesto.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Coasted is about right depends which way the wind is blowing

Neatly evaded using a spelling error.

 

[Lower West Stander]

He's a democratic socialist and in most of Europe he'd be mainstream. John McDonnell is closer to a Marxist.

In your world has he ever done anything wrong?

And, don’t tell me, Maduro is a great guy right?


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[The Merry Prankster]

His stance against the EU because it’s too capitalist is not one democratic socialists in most of Europe believe. He and John are one and the same, except John is smarter

He spoke at more remain events than any other politician during the referendum. So your evidence for this would be?

 

[beorhthelm]

Read the manifesto. It was fully costed as opposed to the Tory one.

may have budgeted for the spending, but it relied on a massive 250bn debt being issued.
and as i recall the costings were called in to question by experts. a promise to maintain a balance budget excluded infrastructure, which had more billions, ignoring that all the infrastructure would need onward staffing and maintenance costs.

a link. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-the-labour-manifesto