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[Politics] Corbyn backing the other side..........again







Green Cross Code Man

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Mar 30, 2006
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It is an interesting one, if he were to become PM, to have our top politician at odds with our intelligence services. Something would have to give.
 






wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Not sure how asking for verification of the evidence and making sure it's credible is "backing the other side"? - I support the call, especially after the previous lies involving Iraq.

After Iran threatening to disrupt oil tankers through the Gulf, after being linked with four attacks in May, with video footage released to the press, with crew being ‘put up’ in Iran, and the UKs own security services (not the Yanks) saying Iran did it, maybe JC might like to be less dismissive? But hey ho, always a conspiracy huh?
 






Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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After Iran threatening to disrupt oil tankers through the Gulf, after being linked with four attacks in May, with video footage released to the press, with crew being ‘put up’ in Iran, and the UKs own security services (not the Yanks) saying Iran did it, maybe JC might like to be less dismissive? But hey ho, always a conspiracy huh?

i bet you hate Blair for lying about the Iraq War though dpn't you? Not that Corbyn has anything to do with the way Melbourne is run anyway.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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Why does everything have to be so reactionary these days.
He's asking for caution, he always has and always will. He's been proven right many, many times throughout his career.
 




Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
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I have a feeling if Corbyn did ever become PM ( Heaven forbid ) our security services would have him removed from office once they demonstrated to the cabinet and parliament that he was a danger to Britains security .
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Not sure how asking for verification of the evidence and making sure it's credible is "backing the other side"? - I support the call, especially after the previous lies involving Iraq.
I would agree that asking for verification is ok, and not backing the other side, but he's not done that. He's stated that there isn't credible evidence. Where does he get that information from?
 






wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Here's an interesting piece by the MD of Bellingcat, the people who revealed the identities of the Salisbury daytrippers.

Was Iran Behind the Oman Tanker Attacks? A Look at the Evidence

From commercial experience I can categorically state that using Marine Traffic and other freely available websites to track shipping through the Gulf is about as reliable as Michael Fish and hurricane forecasts. Tracking equipment is routinely turned off to avoid pirate vessels. I have tracked consignments from around the world on multiple occassions and through Suez, the Gulf and the Straights of Hormuz they routinely disappear. Some times a vessel appears to anchor for days or weeks only to appear in the Med or Indian Ocean at a later date.
 




Dick Head

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Jan 3, 2010
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From commercial experience I can categorically state that using Marine Traffic and other freely available websites to track shipping through the Gulf is about as reliable as Michael Fish and hurricane forecasts. Tracking equipment is routinely turned off to avoid pirate vessels. I have tracked consignments from around the world on multiple occassions and through Suez, the Gulf and the Straights of Hormuz they routinely disappear. Some times a vessel appears to anchor for days or weeks only to appear in the Med or Indian Ocean at a later date.

Oh.
 




wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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i bet you hate Blair for lying about the Iraq War though dpn't you? Not that Corbyn has anything to do with the way Melbourne is run anyway.


But as a potential PM he may have an effect on my pension(s), my family, my friends, my future, plus I can still vote in all UK elections. So up yours! :lol:
 


Guinness Boy

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But as a potential PM he may have an effect on my pension(s), my family, my friends, my future, plus I can still vote in all UK elections. So up yours! :lol:

Way to swerve the first question. What's your opnion of Blair entering the Iraq War? And if that's wrong isn't Corbyn right?
 




wellquickwoody

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Way to swerve the first question. What's your opnion of Blair entering the Iraq War? And if that's wrong isn't Corbyn right?

Blair believed he was doing the right thing, cannot ask any more of a man than that. Corbyn being right is quite possible in a moral sense, but being capable of being a leader of one of the biggest economies in the world requires pragmatism, the man is not capable of that.

So, what gives you the right to preach about what I can and cannot have an opinion about?
 




Tom Bombadil

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Jul 14, 2003
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I'm not a Corbyn fan at all, but he's right on this. It's all a little bit too convenient.
 


jonny.rainbow

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Oct 29, 2005
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I have a feeling if Corbyn did ever become PM ( Heaven forbid ) our security services would have him removed from office once they demonstrated to the cabinet and parliament that he was a danger to Britains security .

And you would support a military coup d'état?

Brilliant.
 


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