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Connor Brown
- Thread starter Falkor
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- Jan 7, 2006
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pornomagboy
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only ched evans really knows what happened. the girl cant remember a thing before waking up naked.
but the law has spoken and other professionals, family and friends should really keep their opinions out of the public eye.
but the law has spoken and other professionals, family and friends should really keep their opinions out of the public eye.
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mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Seperate issue entirely, but I do hate how Evans (or anyone found guilty in a court of such an offence) is immediately titled RAPIST. Suddenly all the news stories are along the lines of 'the woman Evans raped' etc etc.
Obviously he's been found guilty but thats in the OPINION of a court.* I always find when something hasn't been actually PROVEN, that calling someone that is quite hard-hitting.
*Please note that I agree this is as fair a judicial system as we can have and obviously have no idea of the ins and outs (pun not intended) of the case.
Obviously he's been found guilty but thats in the OPINION of a court.* I always find when something hasn't been actually PROVEN, that calling someone that is quite hard-hitting.
*Please note that I agree this is as fair a judicial system as we can have and obviously have no idea of the ins and outs (pun not intended) of the case.
shaolinpunk
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There seems to be a worrying trend on the rise of blaming the victim.
People on Twitter have 'named and shamed' the girl involved in this case. Never mind the fact that as a victim in a sexual offence case she is guaranteed lifetime anonymity and therefore naming her in relation to this is in itself an offence, the fact he has been found guilty suggests that the jury are convinced she is indeed the victim and not the guilty party as a number of cretins are suggesting.
People on Twitter have 'named and shamed' the girl involved in this case. Never mind the fact that as a victim in a sexual offence case she is guaranteed lifetime anonymity and therefore naming her in relation to this is in itself an offence, the fact he has been found guilty suggests that the jury are convinced she is indeed the victim and not the guilty party as a number of cretins are suggesting.
Poyetry In Motion
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What I don't genuinely understand is, and forgive my ignorance ...If the victim has no memory of what took place, how did Evans come to be accused? Did other people witness the crime or something?
Edit: With friends like Connor Brown, who needs enemies ?
Edit: With friends like Connor Brown, who needs enemies ?
My understanding, from what I have read is that he was guilty because, owing to video footage, she was too drunk to say no. Therefore he took advantage. This is only what I have read in the press though, so could be wrong.
EDIT: Just re-read your post. I am assuming there was some 'evidence' that the act took place, that she doesn't remember consenting to.
shaolinpunk
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They both said they did have sex with her, but said she consented.
Poyetry In Motion
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Ah, right. Thankyou. I'm guessing CCTV footage somewhere must support the accusation. Either way, Mr Evans is screwed
Poyetry In Motion
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So, presumably she remembered that she didn't give consent and they took advantage of her drunken state....
I believe there was CCTV in the hotel. They used this to determine her too drunk to say no. Sounds sketchy to me though. I'll try to find the column I read.
Da Man Clay
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- Dec 16, 2004
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Pretty factual discription really. He has been proven to comit the offence in a court of law and therefore is by definition a Rapist. Do you have issues with people like Peter Sutcliffe being called a murder? After all that was only the opinion of a court.
TheGuardian said:
TheGuardian said:
Sheffield United and Wales striker Ched Evans found guilty of rape | Football | The Guardian
What I don't understand is how Clayton McDonald, who also admitted having sex with her that very same night, after Evans, got away with a not guilty verdict.
This is the bit I'm also struggling to understand, what with her testimony about saying she thought she'd been drugged and whatnot, as it seems to fly in the face of the jury's verdict that she (presumably) consented to sex with Clayton McDonald but not Ched Evans.
Ah my bad, I read the report the wrong way around. Evans was after McDonald. So she must have consented to McDonald but not Evans. Anyway, we don't know enough of the evidence to really comment accurately. Dreadful situation for all involved.