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David Conn who writes for the Guardian is one of the best sports journalists there is. He covered the Hillsborough inquiries and inquests better than the rest of the papers put together.
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David Conn who writes for the Guardian is one of the best sports journalists there is. He covered the Hillsborough inquiries and inquests better than the rest of the papers put together.
Interesting comment from Liam, I thought...
"But the way football has gone, players are shielded more from the public these days. There isn’t that interaction that existed 20 or 30 years ago."
...as in some ways, fans have even better access to players than they once did, through social media, principally Twitter and Instagram. Much of it can be one-directional, of course, but many players will interact with fans on a near-daily basis.
"But the way football has gone, players are shielded more from the public these days. There isn’t that interaction that existed 20 or 30 years ago."
...as in some ways, fans have even better access to players than they once did, through social media, principally Twitter and Instagram. Much of it can be one-directional, of course, but many players will interact with fans on a near-daily basis.
I'm not sure what evidence you have for these assertions, or whether this is just subjective prejudice.
However, I'm 62 (so on strict grounds of age, at least, probably "grown up", although I'm happy and proud to call myself a socialist, and have become more so as I got older).
I also would claim to have a reasonable grasp of economics, in light of the fact that I have postgraduate qualifications in the subject from what is commonly seen as one of the best universities in the world, and have been earning my living as an economist for nearly 40 years.
And as a "grown up" with a reasonable grasp of economics, I read the Guardian as a newspaper of choice (along with the FT, which is also a high quality paper in my view), although I don't agree with all its editorial lines. The Times, since it was taken over by Murdoch has become little more than a comic in my view, and certainly (irrespective of one's political perspective) no longer merits the tag "paper of record" which used to be its key selling point. The Telegraph has some good thorough reporting some areas, but tends (again in my view) to have a stuffy middle-aged "little England" perspective on the world and many of its commentators seem to be stuck in the 1950s.
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What,and somebody with a gaelic term for anal sex for a login,indicating somebody is a cretin is glorious to you is it?
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I'd venture to suggest that the general election result proves that very few people take any notice of any newspapers any more, which is worrying for anyone who tries to make a living from writing for them (and their websites).
Inside the industry there's a noticeable dislike of the Guardian (even from left-leaning people) for their sanctimonious attitude to certain rivals while they pursue a completely unsustainable business model themselves. The recent Mail v Guardian spat was an entertaining example of this. But I'd still rather read the Grauniad than a paper like the Mail, which seems to be aimed at middle-class women frightened of being raped by asylum-seekers.
The Telegraph has some decent writers - notably Paul Hayward - but is a dull read for the most part, and the Times is over-full of look-at-me columnists who think they know more about everything than any of their readers. Honourable exceptions are David Aaronovitch, Matthew Parris and Philip Collins. And the Times sports pages have gone far too tabloid. I happen to know that they were disappointed with Liam's introduction to the squad the day after the Wigan game because it said Lewis Dunk could play for England but didn't mention who had the worst dress sense or taste in music. 'Too footbally,' they said.
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I think you need to brush up on you Gaelic.
Nixonator
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Just link the article without the patent political slant in future if you want the actual topic to be discussed.
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Just link the article without the patent political slant in future if you want the actual topic to be discussed.
Political slant? What do you mean?
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I'm not disagreeing with you but ten or so years ago he did let himself down with one of the most unpleasant and warped stitch-ups to come from the national press on the subject of the Falmer battle. He'd clearly sketched out his piece about villagers cowering under the onslaught of football millionaires long before he changed trains at Brighton and bebuggered if he was going to rewrite anything in the light of facts. Perhaps he was ill at the time.
Tyrone Biggums
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Indeed, a little kiss on a butt cheek is hardly anal sex.
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Well it depends on how much garlic you've eaten, commonly known as butt breathe
I agree........... I think they have more access now
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Well it wouldn't be for your footy finance knowledge, more for your BBC experience of breast reduction
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He didn't mention the chat I had with him in Sainsbury's on Thursday, then?
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Given Liam's comments at the last election, I wonder if Chris can use his contacts to get him a column at the Socialist Worker?