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Goldstone1976

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Stop thumps-upping each other you two, its getting kind of weird and slightly gay.

You have a strange definition of "gay".

Unless of course, it was intended as an insult. In which case its homophobic undertones aren't acceptable. :shrug:
 




Chinman3000

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Sep 28, 2011
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Not as 'gay' as getting hung up about it.

A thumbs-up (in my mind at least) is nothing more or less than short-hand for 'I agree with this post'. Just as a thumbs down means 'I disagree with this post'.

Nothing more, or less.

To entertain my opinions surely is to be as 'hung up' on it as I?

And I was just joking about the thumps up thing :thumbsup:
 


Prince Monolulu

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Oct 2, 2013
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I feel the same way. It's too early to write him off altogether, and I wasn't at the Ipswich game, but I've seen nothing so far to feel me with any confidence, and whatever excuses people want to use, that second goal at Ipswich was an absolute ....ing howler.

To me, as a non-professional 'keeper, a howler is TK v Birmingham or one of several away at Notts. Forrest over the past few seasons. Ipswich and Stockdale was more an error of judgement.
Additionally, and more importantly, it did not cost us vital points whereas the others all did.
I am sure you know better.
 


Chinman3000

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You have a strange definition of "gay".

Unless of course, it was intended as an insult. In which case its homophobic undertones aren't acceptable. :shrug:

Relax and come back down off that high horse please Goldstone. I dont see how my use of the word 'gay' lead you to the phrase 'homophobic undertones'.

That is more of a knee-jerk reaction that has been said of my comments.
 


hans kraay fan club

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To me, as a non-professional 'keeper, a howler is TK v Birmingham or one of several away at Notts. Forrest over the past few seasons. Ipswich and Stockdale was more an error of judgement.
Additionally, and more importantly, it did not cost us vital points whereas the others all did.
I am sure you know better.

This is my opinion too.

In my decades in goal, i've let in many hundreds of goals. Every single one annoys me at the time - as they should. However when I analyse my performance there is a huge difference between the ones I COULD have saved, and the occassional one that I really SHOULD have saved.

Seems to me that those with a pre-determined downer on Stockdale, are marking every one as a 'should' when all bar one have been anything but.
 




Goldstone1976

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Relax and come back down off that high horse please Goldstone. I dont see how my use of the word 'gay' lead you to the phrase 'homophobic undertones'.

That is more of a knee-jerk reaction that has been said of my comments.

We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO, if an insult carries the word "gay" as part of it, it, by definition, carries a homophobic undertone. In just the same way as calling someone "a black b'stard" carries racist undertones.
 


Goldstone1976

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This is my opinion too.

In my decades in goal, i've let in many hundreds of goals. Every single one annoys me at the time - as they should. However when I analyse my performance there is a huge difference between the ones I COULD have saved, and the occassional one that I really SHOULD have saved.

Seems to me that those with a pre-determined downer on Stockdale, are marking every one as a 'should' when all bar one have been anything but.

That's very fair comment, But wouldn't you expect to sometimes save the "coulds"? Until Ipswich, I don't think Stockdale had.
 


Wellesley

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Jul 24, 2013
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To me, as a non-professional 'keeper, a howler is TK v Birmingham or one of several away at Notts. Forrest over the past few seasons. Ipswich and Stockdale was more an error of judgement.
Additionally, and more importantly, it did not cost us vital points whereas the others all did.
I am sure you know better.

If you are sure I know better, then stop arguing and accept what I say. TK had already proven what a good keeper he was when he made that howler. As for Stockdale, a player with a superb attitude and one I really want to eventually succeed, has so far, in my unquestionable opinion, been a bit shit.
 




Prince Monolulu

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Oct 2, 2013
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If you are sure I know better, then stop arguing and accept what I say. TK had already proven what a good keeper he was when he made that howler. As for Stockdale, a player with a superb attitude and one I really want to eventually succeed, has so far, in my unquestionable opinion, been a bit shit.

Righto :thumbsup:
 


Lifelong Supporter

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Aug 4, 2009
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PIG was the last line of a much better defence than we have at the moment. How he would have fared with the current style is conjecture. Stockdale could have done better at times but the main defensive problems are elsewhere.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Radio Sussex were emphatic - the Cardiff equaliser was a shocker, 100% attributable to Stockdale. He clearly gave the call to Dunk etc to leave it as it was his, but embarrassingly was caught in no mans land. The shock of his error has visibly sucked the life out of the team and home fans.

Questions - were his performances last season any good? I genuinely don't know.
Was his GKing reputation greater than the reality of his abilities?
 




Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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No one else to blame tonight. Had no reason to come that far for the ball. If he'd left it to dunk and stayed on his line he would have had an easy save.
 


Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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It was a poor error however he did make a superb save when Dunk made a huge error in the 2nd half.
 


















Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
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Stockdale played well in the second half - an excellent save after Dunk's error, catching crosses, very good distribution.

But that goal...bloody Hell. If Ankergren had done that he'd have been crucified. Unbelievably bad, and it changed the game - not just the scoreline but the whole feel of the game. The atmosphere died, and belief was sucked out of the players and the fans.

I really want him to be the dominating keeper I expected him to be, but my expectation has been replaced by a desperate hope.
 


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