COG on his way then....

[chaileyjem]

We took a gamble on CMS after he didn't exactly set The Championship alight during Peterborough's solitary season at this level thinking that Murray would struggle even more to raise his skill and ability.

How did Murray do in 2011/12 again ? (apart from scoring at the Amex of course)

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Correct! So we now have the goal against Leeds, the goal at Burnley and the cross at Forest. Three golden moments then.

I still maintain you could count the MotM displays on one hand in the 3.5 years he's been here. It's not very good for the most expensive acquisition in club history really, is it?

He scored the winner at Derby in our first season in the champ.

Sadly for me CMS will always be remembered not for the cross v Forest but for when we were down to 10 men at Selhurst following Dunks sending off on what seemed like the first min.

We managed to keep them to a 1-0 lead (scored by FFS from a corner just before half time) so we kicked off the second half. Somehow just after KO CMS was put thru. Just the keeper to beat. Racing away. Go on. Go on. Go ON. If we score we may just hang on for a draw here.

He missed. Badly. Just the keeper to beat.

Palace go down the other end. Murray does his usual fall over his feet to win a pen (he did it for us loads of times) . Takes pen. 2-0 down. End up losing 3-0

He could have gone down in Albion folklore. For years to come we would be singing about ten men at Selhurst and CMS the hero. But no



Also he fluffed that chance against Burnley when we were down to 9 men right at the death.

 

[chaileyjem]

CMS did NOTHING

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

How did Murray do in 2011/12 again ? (apart from scoring at the Amex of course)

He scored 8 goals in a side that had just flirted with relegation the year before so they were very much all about staying up.

Dougie the season after quite clearly then set the team up to play to his (considerable) strengths including Wilf slinging in crosses and falling over. A. Lot. FFS also discovered how to take penalties whilst in a Palace shirt because he certainly forgo how to in an Albion one.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

CMS did NOTHING

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So we keep him based on sentimentality then? Based on one good day out in Nottingham. He sadly is quite clearly not good enough.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

He scored the winner at Derby in our first season in the champ.

Sadly for me CMS will always be remembered not for the cross v Forest but for when we were down to 10 men at Selhurst following Dunks sending off on what seemed like the first min.

We managed to keep them to a 1-0 lead (scored by FFS from a corner just before half time) so we kicked off the second half. Somehow just after KO CMS was put thru. Just the keeper to beat. Racing away. Go on. Go on. Go ON. If we score we may just hang on for a draw here.

He missed. Badly. Just the keeper to beat.

Palace go down the other end. Murray does his usual fall over his feet to win a pen (he did it for us loads of times) . Takes pen. 2-0 down. End up losing 3-0

He could have gone down in Albion folklore. For years to come we would be singing about ten men at Selhurst and CMS the hero. But no



Also he fluffed that chance against Burnley when we were down to 9 men right at the death.

Strangely, I have a similar memory. Coventry away. New Years Eve and its 0-0. All of a sudden the ball breaks to CMS who has the keeper to beat and we can all go out on the lash. CMS though has other ideas. He doesn't work the keeper. He doesn't make the net ripple. He does, however, find row S of the Ricoh. 1 chance, 1 complete balls up. Despite Coventry resembling a Sunday league side they go on to win 2-0. Albion have Paynter and CMS up front so the 'nil' bit shouldn't come as a surprise.

What was a surprise is how on earth we beat Southampton in the next game. I seriously thought we might be in a relegation battle after that performance.

 

[Deadly Danson]

So we keep him based on sentimentality then? Based on one good day out in Nottingham. He sadly is quite clearly not good enough.

And I'd add - it was one decent cross. One. That isn't the most persuasive argument to keep a player ever. Even Obika must have put in one decent cross in his career. Or maybe not.

 

[Stat Brother]

So we keep him based on sentimentality then? Based on one good day out in Nottingham. He sadly is quite clearly not good enough.

I would keep him because the pittance coming in, even with the reduced wage bill, won't offset the possibility (irrespective of how unlikely) of CMS going on a little goal scoring run.

Sadly though I'd snap the hand off of anyone offering 'Ashley Barnes' money, and I wouldn't give him another year.

 

[Icy Gull]

CMS did NOTHING

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I was really really hoping he would go on and have a blinding season this year, that was a quality cross at a crucial moment. Sadly he hasn't come close to anything with as much quality since

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

How did Murray do in 2011/12 again ? (apart from scoring at the Amex of course)

Scored a few less than CMS but we're only talking about 7 and 10 when 20 in league and cup should be the benchmark. Murray's 30 goals the following season was seriously skewed by the number of dubious penalty kicks awarded when he and Winifred made Tom Daley look like a novice.

 

[Simster]

CMS did NOTHING

I think we've already established he's done THREE things of note (in 4 years). I've named them all, and included this very cross.

 

[durrington gull]

he's now had several managers who apparently 'haven't used him properly' in this division....surely there comes a time when he simply needs to adapt his game

or is it simply that he's not good enough to change how a team plays to suit him?

Fed up with hearing excuses about CMS not playing in the right system blah, blah, blah etc, he simply isnt and hasnt been good enough - his goal record in the championship is poor and he needs 4/5 chances to score 1 - sorry but a huge mistake letting Murray go and CMS in but enough has been said that in numerous other threads

 

[portslade seagull]

Of all our strikers CMS would be the one we miss the least if 1 had to go

 

[jimbob5]

can't see the point of selling O'Grady. He started playing now and there's no guarantee a replacement will be better.

 

[seagulls4ever]

CMS was decent for us (if not worth up to £3.25m) before his major injury. Since his injury, however, he hasn't been the same player.

 

[jamie the seagull]

I thought the club were willing to sell COG to get themselves out of the contract (length and wage) whilst we had a buyer (sheff utd).
His concern maybe that Hughton only started with him because CMS got injured.
COG holds the ball up so well and that has given the midfield players the confidence to support him or make runs past him as they know he will hold it.
Based on what we will lose financially if we are relegated it is worth holding onto COG to get the goals to keep us up.
At this rate his valuation is increasing so if he leaves in the summer (due to family) we would easily make a profit on him.

 

[jamie the seagull]

"Sheffield United will resurrect their interest in Chris O’Grady if he is allowed to leave Brighton and Hove Albion this summer"

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united-blades-set-to-monitor-former-owl-s-availability-1-7263754

 

[Dave the OAP]

"Sheffield United will resurrect their interest in Chris O’Grady if he is allowed to leave Brighton and Hove Albion this summer"

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united-blades-set-to-monitor-former-owl-s-availability-1-7263754

Good

 

[spence]

Good

Very much this

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]