[Albion] Club "investigating" dedicated train service to Manchester

[Nottseagull]

I got the Seagull special to Hereford in 76 and the club repaid us by dropping the great Fred Binney for some unknown kid. Never again.

I went to that match too but from Bath, and hadn't even heard of him!
To those who don't know to whom we refer, after 50 seconds he shot, he scored.....

 

[Eeyore]

on a dry train to Coventry out of Euston one year until someone broke into the buffet car
regards
DR

Oooh that was brave of them. I want to be in their gang.

Whatever.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

You know my name ask that dick head of a copper and he will tell you it is true. They were charged with trying to enter a sports stadium having consumed alcohol and received a conditional discharge or ask Piltdown Man to ask one of my sons about it at the next home game. it is no major issue but not as you describe it going to a game there are still laws governing the consumption of alcohol.

You have misunderstood, or your sons have not told you the whole truth. It is simply NOT an offence, to ‘enter a sports stadium having consumed alcohol”. It IS an offence to try to bring alcohol into the ground, or to try to enter the ground intoxicated, but not simply ‘having consumed alcohol”.

Either your lads were pissed, or the copper decreed that they were.

You can read for yourself here; https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/57

 

[dazzer6666]

it's been common practice over the years, throw in the odd porn film and its a decent day out
regards
DR

How odd ? If it involves animals I’m out [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Giraffe]

Decent to see them considering different options but for me it’s too expensive compared with driving, especially as a group of four. It would also mean leaving earlier and getting back later than if I drove. And we might stay up on the Friday or Saturday night.

Not sure that this is going to get much take up unless the price comes down which I assume would need the club to heavily subsidise it (they may already be doing this in that indicative costing?)

 

[Bozza]

Decent to see them considering different options but for me it’s too expensive compared with driving, especially as a group of four. It would also mean leaving earlier and getting back later than if I drove. And we might stay up on the Friday or Saturday night.

Not sure that this is going to get much take up unless the price comes down which I assume would need the club to heavily subsidise it (they may already be doing this in that indicative costing?)

If a group of like-minded folk were making away game travel decisions based on cost, no one would ever get the train to games.

I think you've said before you're not much of a drinker and my recollection of your travels is that you invariably drive. I am a drinker and I'll always choose to take the train. I think these things are related!

 

[ac gull]

Train is far more convenient and less hassle re finding somewhere to park etc - but more costly

Having driven to away games and home games for years - now far prefer the train for away games

 

[Javeaseagull]

This doesn’t really concern me, I live in Spain, but as an olden with wisdom, I hope, I would like to give my opinion.
If you cannot go for 2 1/2 hours on a train without a drink I think you have problems that you should address in your own way.
The train should arrive at 12.30 in Manchester leaving lots of time for drinking and eating before the match. How much time do you need? How much can you consume before falling asleep?
I may have misjudged this thread and it is just a willy waving contest but really, do you have to drink all the way there and all the way back?
I appreciate that when we were shit you needed a drink to watch the team but that is not the case now, is it?
I don’t have your experiences of following Brighton because I haven’t been there for years. Albion will always be in my heart because I am Sussex born. Anyway, just saying.

 

[desprateseagull]

what 'legislation' bans alcohol on trains? Rail operators sell the stuff themselves, on some routes!

 

[Billy the Fish]

You have misunderstood, or your sons have not told you the whole truth. It is simply NOT an offence, to ‘enter a sports stadium having consumed alcohol”. It IS an offence to try to bring alcohol into the ground, or to try to enter the ground intoxicated, but not simply ‘having consumed alcohol”.

Either your lads were pissed, or the copper decreed that they were.

You can read for yourself here; https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/57

But ultimately if a copper doesn't want to let someone in for whatever reason they can play the "drunk" card knowing full well that it's impossible to prove either way and there's really no way to argue, the only outcome of arguing is a trip to the cells.
In the situation BG describes you have to assume there's something else to the story for them to be refused entry, but there's no reason to assume that it didn't happen. The trick is always to not draw attention to yourself!

 

[drew]

This doesn’t really concern me, I live in Spain, but as an olden with wisdom, I hope, I would like to give my opinion.
If you cannot go for 2 1/2 hours on a train without a drink I think you have problems that you should address in your own way.
The train should arrive at 12.30 in Manchester leaving lots of time for drinking and eating before the match. How much time do you need? How much can you consume before falling asleep?
I may have misjudged this thread and it is just a willy waving contest but really, do you have to drink all the way there and all the way back?
I appreciate that when we were shit you needed a drink to watch the team but that is not the case now, is it?
I don’t have your experiences of following Brighton because I haven’t been there for years. Albion will always be in my heart because I am Sussex born. Anyway, just saying.

It is far from a willy waving contest. We go to away games and admittedly drink quite a bit. It's our way of having a good day out, not about just going somewhere for 90 minutes of football. You live in Spain but that's no excuse not to follow the team. If you did follow results, you'd realize our away form is pretty shit.

 

[The Optimist]

what 'legislation' bans alcohol on trains? Rail operators sell the stuff themselves, on some routes!

It’s been covered earlier in the thread, but basically any transport that is being run solely to take people to a sporting (or is it just football?) event cannot have alcohol on it. This includes alcohol that people bring themselves. It’s why football coaches are dry.

 

[chaileyjem]

At least you'll be able to take your own flask.

 

[Gilliver's Travels]

Hang on. Booze is sooo last century. We're told young people in particular are increasingly turning their backs on alcohol.
So, if Southern Trains are involved, by the time the train makes Manchester the problem will have disappeared entirely.

 

[Chicken Run]

I remember the special to the FA cup game at Peterborough in the 80’s, the Feds actually wanted to taste our Orange Squash That our mums had done for us [emoji23]

 

[mikeyjh]

I wonder what a chartered aircraft would cost,. I know it was probably 20 years ago but a Legal and General manager who used our pub told us that they had a sales seminar in Spain and somebody messed up the flights so they chartered a plane for 300 people with no refreshments and it cost less than £8 per person to fly there.

Someone's pulling your leg - If you said £150 a head, that might be plausible........ £8 a head would probably cover 1/3 of the fuel cost, one way, 20 years a go, a bit more I guess.

 

[The red pepper kid]

stewards on the train, the same as 2004, when we went to cardiff. Funnily enough, the train was awash with booze on the way back, and stewards nowhere to be seen.

we were drinking all the way on that lovely army green train to cardiff

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

"Supporters are advised that alcohol will not be permitted on the train, in accordance with legislation."

What's the point in getting a train to an away match if you can't have train beers?

Ummm because it's faster than travelling by coach, and easier than having to drive perhaps?

Getting pissed enroute and on your way home isn't your main reason for travelling away l take it?

 

[GT49er]

It’s been covered earlier in the thread, but basically any transport that is being run solely to take people to a sporting (or is it just football?) event cannot have alcohol on it. This includes alcohol that people bring themselves. It’s why football coaches are dry.

Legislation covers all sporting events - suspect that in reality it's just football.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It is far from a willy waving contest. We go to away games and admittedly drink quite a bit. It's our way of having a good day out, not about just going somewhere for 90 minutes of football. You live in Spain but that's no excuse not to follow the team. If you did follow results, you'd realize our away form is pretty shit.

It does explain why I've seen some people in a drunken stupor asleep at away grounds. I presume they ask their mates about the game, on the way home.