Club Confirms Poyet Dismissal

[Skaville]

Gus Poyet today accused Brighton and Hove Albion of a lack of “respect”...erm pot/kettle Mr Poyet. How much respect were you showing Mr Bloom when you tried to court Chelsea, Spurs, Leeds and anyone else who took your fancy? How would you have liked if we had played Leeds and Tony Bloom had said "Brian McDermott is a fantastic manager and I'd love him to be the manager here one day"?

So long, it's sad that it ended this way but I get the feeling this was entirely of your making.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Although I suspect the Tribunal would also find that Poyet had contributed towards his own dismissal and would adjust the size of any award accordingly.

The High Court might or might not take a different view from an Employment Tribunal. That will be one of the issues the lawyers will be thinking about.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

This is mostly tedious twaddle rehashing prejudices aired weeks ago. Does anyone actually know what the charges were - exactly? No you don't so instead you are indulging yourselves in pretentious waffle about things you know nothing about.

Indeed.

That's why I'm steering well clear of anything but the processes that might be involved. The "facts" remain unknown.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

An employment tribunal only has the jurisdiction to award a maximum of around £80k and nothing to do with legal costs, right?

The county court is a different matter.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

An employment tribunal only has the jurisdiction to award a maximum of around £80k and nothing to do with legal costs, right?

The county court is a different matter.

I'm guessing that if Gus won the tribunal he would then go to court to get the compo of his contract

 

[Lord Bracknell]

An employment tribunal only has the jurisdiction to award a maximum of around £80k and nothing to do with legal costs, right?

The county court is a different matter.

I can't imagine either the Club or the LMA settling for a County Court decision. I would expect both sides to see this as a case with such wide implications that the losers will want to find a route to a higher Court.

 

[twickers]

'I have always said all the time we keep improving I will be at this football club and the day we hit the roof, I am not...or if I get dismissed for gross miss conduct or ees something like that'

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I'm guessing that if Gus won the tribunal he would then go to court to get the compo of his contract

A tribunal victory would be helpful to whichever side won. But, as has been said, the big money only starts rolling if the case goes elsewhere.

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

I think that through the season we had untold opportunites to turn draws into wins, or losing situations into draws and this effectively stopped us from being promoted automatically. Finishing fourth was a fine achievement of course, but with the talent we had available, we should have sneaked over the line without the need for the play-offs, and I put that down to a rigid and unbending adherence to one style of play. If the bamboo doesn't bend in the wind, it snaps...

If if if, in 1995 man utd lost out on a treble by the smallest margins. 1 goal in any number of games would have given them the title. Hindsight is wonderful

 

[Buckley's Mad Eye]

Gus lost all credibility for me with the comments he made after the Palace game. When we needed him to encourage and motivate us and look positively to the start of the new season, he chose to focus on his own personal needs to the detriment of the club. I remain saddened that things ended the way they did.

Yep, we'd just lost the most important game in years, and Gus comes on the telly whining about reaching the ceiling...wtf was that all about! Ill judged, ill timed and shitty.

 

[Creaky]

Gus Poyet today accused Brighton and Hove Albion of a lack of “respect”...erm pot/kettle Mr Poyet. How much respect were you showing Mr Bloom when you tried to court Chelsea, Spurs, Leeds and anyone else who took your fancy? How would you have liked if we had played Leeds and Tony Bloom had said "Brian McDermott is a fantastic manager and I'd love him to be the manager here one day"?

So long, it's sad that it ended this way but I get the feeling this was entirely of your making.

How many clubs did TB and/or other members of the board negotiate with trying to 'sell' Gus Poyet's services?

Was it Gus who asked for permission to talk to Reading?

How flattered would you feel if your boss suggested you might like to think about taking a job with another company?

 

[murraymints4brighton]

Looking at the way Poyet has handled himself in his time with the club, flirting from idol to occasionally showing his true colours, I would say this isnt over. Through our success with Poyet we kind of forgot who we had hired, a charismatic, latin american and at times, hot head and for me personally I had an inkling that when it would inevitably come to an end it would do so with an almighty crash.

One thing we must do is thank Mr Poyet for his success with the club. For me the way we walked all over League One, with in my opinion a far from "stand out" crop of players, was the greatest accomplishment in his time here. The 4th place finish, amazing. Best in how ever many years. However, Poyet is and was the first ever manager to have any kind of serious financial backing in the modern era. The first to have the privilege to influence the construction of our magnificent stadium and to have input on a multi-million pound training facility.

The squad we had this year, well, it should have won the League really. From goalkeeper to striker you had Premier League experience, Champions League experience, ex-internationals and current internationals, plus a sell out crowd backing them all the way. Everything was there for promotion. Yet we didn't go up? There where 4 points ( I think?) In it between us and 2nd and we didnt go up because we failed to turn a couple of needless draws into wins. We had no plan B.

Oscar Garcia has a wonderful job this season. He may not have the same backing as Poyet but he still has a good squad and one that I believe can challenge this season and be even stronger next. It's a new era for the club and Garcia is the 2nd part of it and with all the Albion have to offer, a good coach should be able to harness that and take us upto the Premier League.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Pretty sure this internal appeal board will have dealt only with whether the correct process had been followed by the club, not whether the final decision was justified.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Pulis took Gillingham to the high court for wrongful dismissal - that was a complicated case that involved other factors rather than just the dismissal

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Chances are this tribunal will have dealt only with whether the correct process had been followed by the club, not whether the final decision was justified.

Edit: I assume you mean the internal process. Sorry, the tribunal bit threw me.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

How many clubs did TB and/or other members of the board negotiate with trying to 'sell' Gus Poyet's services?

Was it Gus who asked for permission to talk to Reading?

How flattered would you feel if your boss suggested you might like to think about taking a job with another company?

You know about the dead swan too (smiley winky thingy) !!!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Yep, we'd just lost the most important game in years, and Gus comes on the telly whining about reaching the ceiling...wtf was that all about! Ill judged, ill timed and shitty.

An interpretation of those words could be that he was complaining that the Club's ambitions were lower than his - but he was being held back by the actions and decisions of others.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I'm guessing that if Gus won the tribunal he would then go to court to get the compo of his contract

Presumably, although there is the possibility that the latter could be heard before the former and the tribunal be abandoned if Gus is satisfied with his payout or whatever happens.

I can't imagine either the Club or the LMA settling for a County Court decision. I would expect both sides to see this as a case with such wide implications that the losers will want to find a route to a higher Court.

Fair point. It could be a very interesting time for the greater good of football.

 

[ROSM]

Going to ask an quick question; can anyone point me in the direction of the 'as aired' broadcast, or full version of the palace game at the AMEX?

Thanks.

I think you asked this once before. I did have it on virgin TiVo but don't now. I have tried to recall it but can't now. I did watch it once but couldn't recall anything on it that may have given a clue to any disciplinary other than his apologising to Ian holloway ahead of the game

 

[Buckley's Mad Eye]

An interpretation of those words could be that he was complaining that the Club's ambitions were lower than his - but he was being held back by the actions and decisions of others.

It felt like a kick in the guts to me. Losing our shot at the PL and a veiled threat by the best manager (in my supporting lifetime) walking out on us on the same night was crappy. I haven't got a clue why he was sacked, but he lost me after that interview.