[Football] Claims Chris Wilder demanded £4million pay off from Sheffield Utd

[sydney]

Normally I would say that coming out and " trashing " the Manager is totally out of order. And let's face it . He did trash him even after he did do it. He kept saying I don't want to say anything bad about him.

Chris Wilder put that Club back on the World Wide FootbaMap and earned the Club Millions more that they paid him so he is in credit at least financially with Sheff United.

I think a few posters have missed what he was earning. If you put a few of the statements together. It looks like his annual salary was £3.1 Million.

There is an almost unwritten formula for calculating what eventually gets written into a " Compromise Agreement " when a Manager's Contract is terminated. But Wilder wasn't being sacked. So his contractual entitlement would have been Zero.

I agree with their owner. I didn't like the way that Wilder belittled the players and Club in Press Interviews. The Owner explained in that interview how this can affect future Sponsorship Deals. He didn't have to come out and explain these things.So whilst I hated how he trashed Wilder. I sort of understand that he did it to be more transparent to the fans.

It would however have been better if both the Owner and Wilder hadn't let this play out in the Media. The Club should have said. " Look we contractually owe you nothing if you resign however, you earned this Club a lot of money over the time you were here. So here is your £4m and we wish you all the best for the future.

obviously not in the princes' mindset......arse hole.

 

[Jim in the West]

Problem is Wilder was responsible for the transfers. Why the falling out begun was the the owners wanted a director of football. You can see why with the wasted Millions on Brewster, McBurnie and Ramsdale (Easily the worst keeper in the league signed for a cool £18 million).

Sheff Utd certainly seem to have splashed the cash on some bang average players. Ramsdale isn't too bad, but I remember watching several Bmuff games last season thinking he was pretty light-weight*. Paying £18m for him was just ridiculous. Brewster may one day come good, but they paid massively over the odds (£23m!!!) for someone who had never made a Premier League appearance for Liverpool. And if Wilder was so keen on him, it seems odd that he's only started 9 games this season. Reading some of the reports, it seems Wilder's negotiating skills left much to be desired, which could be the reason they paid so much over the odds. Who knows.

*apart from against us!

 

[albionalbino]

It's all very Sheffield......

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Blades Owner Prince Abdullah making the allegations in a couple of national newspapers this morning.

Be interested to see Wilder’s response, it’s a lot of money to ask for whilst effectively having failed at your job, and there might a danger of not only pissing off the United faithful but acting as a red flag for any future employer?

Just thinking how much severance pay our potterer and his merry band of nomadic yesmen could command on that basis. Double Lottery Wins all round!

 

[Mancgull]

Just thinking how much severance pay our potterer and his merry band of nomadic yesmen could command on that basis. Double Lottery Wins all round!

Potter won’t be on £3m a year though, or even close to it.
I believe that Wilder wouldn’t work under a Director of Football. I do think that this is the right direction for big clubs. It gives more continuity and gives the recruitment task to someone else... albeit I’m sure that the coach has a say in it.
Wilder seems like a manager where he just wants full responsibility. Where does he go next? Probably an ambitious Championship club but I can’t see one giving him anywhere near that salary!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Potter won’t be on £3m a year though, or even close to it.
I believe that Wilder wouldn’t work under a Director of Football. I do think that this is the right direction for big clubs. It gives more continuity and gives the recruitment task to someone else... albeit I’m sure that the coach has a say in it.
Wilder seems like a manager where he just wants full responsibility. Where does he go next? Probably an ambitious Championship club but I can’t see one giving him anywhere near that salary!

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

 

[Icy Gull]

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

Yeah, the man is clearly a fool. We could be PL champions and champion’s league cup holders by now with a street wise and smart owner

Your constant knocking is wearing, where do you think we should be in the food chain?

 

[Paris]

Sheff Utd certainly seem to have splashed the cash on some bang average players. Ramsdale isn't too bad, but I remember watching several Bmuff games last season thinking he was pretty light-weight*. Paying £18m for him was just ridiculous. Brewster may one day come good, but they paid massively over the odds (£23m!!!) for someone who had never made a Premier League appearance for Liverpool. And if Wilder was so keen on him, it seems odd that he's only started 9 games this season. Reading some of the reports, it seems Wilder's negotiating skills left much to be desired, which could be the reason they paid so much over the odds. Who knows.

*apart from against us!

Agree about Ramsdale being too lightweight. He never looks particularly convincing. 18 million pounds was a crazy amount to pay for him and Dean Henderson was always going to be a tough act to follow.

Two relegations in a row...

 

[Rugrat]

Problem is Wilder was responsible for the transfers. Why the falling out begun was the the owners wanted a director of football. You can see why with the wasted Millions on Brewster, McBurnie and Ramsdale (Easily the worst keeper in the league signed for a cool £18 million).

You can add Moussett to that list

 

[Stat Brother]

Agree about Ramsdale being too lightweight. He never looks particularly convincing. 18 million pounds was a crazy amount to pay for him and Dean Henderson was always going to be a tough act to follow.

Two relegations in a row...

Ramsdale is so shite there has never been a clamour on here for the Albion to sing him.

Sure the same can't be said of McBurnie or Brewster but if anything that's all the more damning for Rammy.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

The single most stupid thing you have ever posted on NSC. And that's not to say there haven't been a good few contenders

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Yeah, the man is clearly a fool. We could be PL champions and champion’s league cup holders by now with a street wise and smart owner

Your constant knocking is wearing, where do you think we should be in the food chain?

I'll just continue saying my piece, same as everybody else, until such time as the circle jerk is complete

My knocking is exactly the same as everybody else's knocking is (or should be). Repeated failure to invest in quality up front. Oh, and failure to invest in managers / coaches / whateveryouwanttocallthem with a proven track record. It's cost us - and more importantly TB - in the long run. And the short to medium run also. Oh well

 

[Munkfish]

Sheff Utd certainly seem to have splashed the cash on some bang average players. Ramsdale isn't too bad, but I remember watching several Bmuff games last season thinking he was pretty light-weight*. Paying £18m for him was just ridiculous. Brewster may one day come good, but they paid massively over the odds (£23m!!!) for someone who had never made a Premier League appearance for Liverpool. And if Wilder was so keen on him, it seems odd that he's only started 9 games this season. Reading some of the reports, it seems Wilder's negotiating skills left much to be desired, which could be the reason they paid so much over the odds. Who knows.

*apart from against us!

You say he’s not too bad, name a worse first choice keeper in the league.

Agree with the rest though. Not only did Sheffield United over pay for Brewster, if he was a success then Liverpool could sign him back stupidly cheap if they wanted to.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The single most stupid thing you have ever posted on NSC. And that's not to say there haven't been a good few contenders

You've allegedly been a top man in business (before your brain clearly turned to mush ). At what point in your managerial selection process would you narrow that, er, selection down to a shortlist of three, interview all three candidates and then confidently declare:"YUP! Sami Hyypiä's the man for me! Anyone on the selection board that's on my payroll care to disagree? That's unanimous then '

Rinse and repeat for selection of gormless looking bloke off the novelty slot on Football Focus

 

[WATFORD zero]

You've allegedly been a top man in business (before your brain clearly turned to mush ). At what point in your managerial selection process would you narrow that, er, selection down to a shortlist of three, interview all three candidates and then confidently declare:"YUP! Sami Hyypiä's the man for me! Anyone on the selection board that's on my payroll care to disagree? That's unanimous then '

Rinse and repeat for selection of gormless looking bloke off the novelty slot on Football Focus

On more than a few occasions

So Tone's not allowed a few mistakes in amongst the hundreds, it not thousands of decisions that he's made about BHA ? I don't believe that would make him naive, maybe just human.

As someone once rightly pointed out to me, during a discussion after a significant cock up, the more decisions they made, the more they and their team achieved, and the quicker they did it, the higher the risk of errors. The simplest way to avoid mistakes is to not do anything.

 

[McTavish]

Just thinking how much severance pay our potterer and his merry band of nomadic yesmen could command on that basis. Double Lottery Wins all round!

Do you really have to crowbar your views on Potter into every thread? It's getting very tedious.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

That chestnut has been dealt with on NSC some time ago; the contract will have all sorts of clauses and caveats. Anyway, I can't imagine you really believe Tony is naive so I'm calling 'wind up'.

Edit, apparently not. That's a little saddening

 

[Brighthelmstone]

Long notice periods are dreadful though, I'm going through a 3 month one at the moment, and am increasingly (and correctly) being sidelined, kept out of decision making, becoming irrelevant. Yet they won't let me have gardening leave or pay me off.

I've been in both sides. Work in IT so 3 month notice period is the norm sadly. a while back I resigned to leave one tourism company to go to another. Gave my notice just before 9, boss rang HR and I was out in the carpark with my stuff by 9.15 and on gardening leave for 3 months, lovely! and all very friednly and matter of fact about it. More recently when i left the boss was a jerk and insisted i 'work' the three months, but then refused to talk to me (or anyone else who resigned) and refused to give us work. But insisted on a leaving presentation on my last day and 5pm on a friday...... Wonder who attended, as those of us leaving certainly didn't!

 

[Live by the sea]

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

Our naive chairman . The most laughable comment I have ever read on NSC . I wish I was so naive that my naivety allowed me to be so incredibly successful in business that I could comfortably afford to pump well over £250 million pounds into my local club ..

 

[portlock seagull]

As if £3-4m is anything to an Arab owner with PL income. Yeah, I’m crying for him!