[Albion] Chris Wilder on the problem of playing Brighton

[Silverhatch]

RDZ tailor made 4 pool? Nah! They are not a De Zerbi squad.

 

[Billy the Fish]

The thing is, Wilder and Moyes are dinosaurs - they can’t coach players to pass and move. They know how to get in the mixer and cause a bit of chaos. No wonder they’re baffled by the likes of De Zerbi.

Arrogant, and bullshit

 

[dazzer6666]

In the same interview he said their players are an honest bunch, wouldn’t roll around all over the place and get up straight away.

That’s you, Facundo. Just stop it

 

[Springal]

Arrogant, and bullshit

Agreed - Moyes the dinosaur taken 4 points off us this season !

 

[Weststander]

Agreed - Moyes the dinosaur taken 4 points off us this season !

We normally boss Moyes.

Achieved this season with a home defensive masterclass

 

[The Mole]

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...and some of our passing and interplay today was sublime. "Pop, pop, pop" is a good way of describing the razor sharp one touch passing that sees us play through and around opposition with apparent ease.

it made such a difference when Dunk came on as there is always an option for a pass in defence when he is there

 

[Bozza]

Agreed - Moyes the dinosaur taken 4 points off us this season !

Maybe so, but I'm not having their win at the Amex as anything other than good fortune.

Play that game in the same way and we probably win it seven times out of 10 and draw another two.

It's not tactically astute to give your opponents all the possession, numerous chances and just hope they don't score enough of them.

 

[Wallace]

Moyes and Wilder are not dinosaurs, Moyes has worked wonders at West Ham and is a massively underrated manager. Wilder did amazing job at Northampton before getting a bang average Sheffield United squad into the premier league utilising some very progressive tactics. Both are very, very good managers and reserve respect for what they have achieved in the game.

 

[Springal]

Maybe so, but I'm not having their win at the Amex as anything other than good fortune.

Play that game in the same way and we probably win it seven times out of 10 and draw another two.

It's not tactically astute to give your opponents all the possession, numerous chances and just hope they don't score enough of them.

Oh I agree. No idea why RDZ didn’t address Milner playing so high and leaving Webster exposed for pretty much every goal.

But i’d take a dinosaur and winning the Europa Conference league over anything we’ve had in my lifetime!

 

[Weststander]

Maybe so, but I'm not having their win at the Amex as anything other than good fortune.

Play that game in the same way and we probably win it seven times out of 10 and draw another two.

It's not tactically astute to give your opponents all the possession, numerous chances and just hope they don't score enough of them.

Tactically astute was, alas, Dyche in Everton’s Amex win. Moyes did nothing of the sort, imho it was more kamikaze with too many Albion players upfield from the off, eg Estpupinan 80 yards from our goal with no cover.

 

[Rowdey]

That’s you, Facundo. Just stop it

JPvH also does a bit of this.. and the SU fans dug him out when he suddenly went from 'shot' to 'running back very quickly..'

 

[Guinness Boy]

I’ve just watched our first goal back again on MOTD. It was incredible. There isn’t a team in England that could have stopped it and only a few that could try and recreate it. Absolute dreamland.

 

[Bodian]

JPvH also does a bit of this.. and the SU fans dug him out when he suddenly went from 'shot' to 'running back very quickly..'

To be fair he did start running on almost one leg he was so desperate to get back. He may have overegged it when going down, but he obviously had a knock.

 

[tstanbur]

Maybe so, but I'm not having their win at the Amex as anything other than good fortune.

Play that game in the same way and we probably win it seven times out of 10 and draw another two.

It's not tactically astute to give your opponents all the possession, numerous chances and just hope they don't score enough of them.

David Moyes agrees with this

 

[Beanstalk]

Wouldn’t have expected anything less from one of our own

 

[sydney]

I quite enjoyed reading these words from Wilder post-match today.

I like the thought of the bulk of Premier League managers getting together, on Zoom probably, trying to figure out a way to counter our play...

"You don't say it before but when the draw comes out, it’s a real difficult one to deal with - with the way they are and the way they play.​

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"It was quite interesting speaking to David Moyes after we played West Ham last week. Everybody has the same problem playing against them.​

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"I do get the narrative saying let’s go press, go after them, not allow them to play.​

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"But they’ve worked religiously on it. They’ve been a possession-based football team for quite a number of seasons under Graham Potter and taken it to the next level now with the players they are bringing in as well.​

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"Obviously one of them, Joao Pedro. 'Not today, Joao', I said before the game but obviously he said 'yes'.​

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"We know that’s what he can do. For the type of player he is.​

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"They have more passes in the Premier League than anybody, second most possession – above Liverpool, Aston Villa, Spurs, Man United and all those fabulous teams. Only one team rivals those numbers. It’s a real difficult one for us.​

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“Especially at home, I was talking to David Moyes about how you stop them. If you do go and get up the pitch and don’t get it right, they go pop, pop, pop and all of a sudden they’re in.”​

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...and some of our passing and interplay today was sublime. "Pop, pop, pop" is a good way of describing the razor sharp one touch passing that sees us play through and around opposition with apparent ease.

that's made me stiff.

 

[CaptainDaveUK]

I was goo

I’ve just watched our first goal back again on MOTD. It was incredible. There isn’t a team in England that could have stopped it and only a few that could try and recreate it. Absolute dreamland.

It was literally pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop followed by Buonanotte running at their defence and unleashing a wonder strike top bins. It was unbelievably good.

 

[El Presidente]

I would seriously love you to be right ......but

When we ran out against Donny at the Amex, all my wildest dreams were fulfilled

Including the one involving Kylie?

 

[Jim in the West]

Moyes and Wilder are not dinosaurs, Moyes has worked wonders at West Ham and is a massively underrated manager. Wilder did amazing job at Northampton before getting a bang average Sheffield United squad into the premier league utilising some very progressive tactics. Both are very, very good managers and reserve respect for what they have achieved in the game.

Yes - on reflection I was possibly a little hasty. I really like Moyes, actually - albeit a lot of West Ham fans seem to think he IS a dinosaur!! He has also had an absolutely huge budget to play with, yet still employs the sort of tactics Roy loves at Palace.
As for Wilder, the whole “over-lapping centre backs” thing worked well for one season, but once everyone worked out how to play against them, he didn’t seem able to change. Too much “blood and thunder” for my liking!

 

[Boroseagull]

I’ve just watched our first goal back again on MOTD. It was incredible. There isn’t a team in England that could have stopped it and only a few that could try and recreate it. Absolute dreamland.

That, as they say, was pure football poetry.