[News] China hacks the ministry of defence

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

China is full of entrepreneurial rogue operatives, hacking foreign intelligence in order to, er, make some money, er, by selling information to, er, the Russians? No, no hang on....to....to the Chinese!

Lucky it has nothing to do with the Chinese government, though. That would have been awful.

你们都是一群意志薄弱的白痴，我们来抓你们。很快。

Fact.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Has the Daily Mail/Express blamed Meghan yet? Or immigrants or Sadiq Khan?

It's headline yesterday was that Muslims have taken over our councils, with a picture of a Green party Muslim councilor, and a headline blaming Starmer.

So it can only be a matter of time. Either Khan, Meghan or That Meryl.

 

[Coldeanseagull]

It was probably some spotty, genius oick, in his bedroom, with a laptop and re routing through a VPN....but not if he's got virginmedia wifi...that's something that needs Chinas intervention

 

[Hugo Rune]

Not strictly true - a third party platform that handles payroll has, not the MoD itself

Let’s not let facts get in the way of a good headline. Play the game!

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

My pension was paid in ok they didn’t get 唔紧要，我嘅養老金有支付

My pension was paid in ok they didn’t get 唔紧要，我嘅養老金有支付

Yes, although Temu now known to the penny how much to market you for tat!!

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Hmm - 10 seconds Googling finds this. Are you sure you don't want to rethink that statement about safety?

 

[clapham_gull]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

The problem with your statement is there is literally a hacking industry in China who are happy to offer their services to Government.

I spoke to someone who emigrated here (who had friend back home who did it FOR the state) and did so with a sense of national pride.

I'm 100% confident that none of the above makes me xenophobic towards the Chinese people.

The reality is you have a state that is very fearful of the West and the West that is very fearful of that state. Both act "accordingly".

 

[Seagull58]

Just like that Chinese balloon that was supposedly spying on America, that was never proven but most people accepted it was China. Unless they can prove it or China admitted it then it wasn't China / end of

The Chinese government confirmed it was their balloon! They said it was their weather balloon that was blown off course. I think you're naive or deliberately obtuse to believe it's certainly not China.

 

[Seagull58]

To early in this instance of course but there’s huge amounts of evidence the Chinese sponsor attacks on western entities. Even if it’s not the government itself, it’s encouraged by organisations in their country or even supported by the government.

The Chinese spent several years using hacking, cloned emails and other illegal methods to try and steal aero engine technical data from Rolls-Royce. The issue was raised several times through diplomatic channels and even at ministerial level.

 

[Eeyore]

I don’t think you can pin this on Tory xenophobia or ‘rogue hackers’ - there is plenty of evidence that Chinese backed spy agencies and Chinese contracted security firms (and those of Russia) have carried out cyberattacks on the West - in fact it is a major security risk now and they are increasing in sophistication and frequency. There is a limit to plausible deniability when you have a Country like China, where the Chinese Communist Party and the State are effectively a fusion of one centralised system of governance.

We have the same capabilities (and probably carry out a similar level of attacks)

Well, yes, I can't help but think this is a two way thing. I suspect we have plenty of spooks on the case. You can't have a shit today without them knowing you've sat on the throne.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well, yes, I can't help but think this is a two way thing. I suspect we have plenty of spooks on the case. You can't have a shit today without them knowing you've sat on the throne.

Of course you can. You just need one of these and keep your toilet brush handy