[News] China hacks the ministry of defence

[macbeth]

this seems….. ermmm… not good





still not the worst defence in london last night though.

 

[Springal]

Not strictly true - a third party platform that handles payroll has, not the MoD itself

 

[Randy McNob]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

The CCP will certainly claim this if there's any concrete proof linking the attacks to China.

Don't think it's a xenophobic narrative to say the Chinese state has attacked us before. I'll wait to see what more details emerge on this one

 

[Springal]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

Not really. Chinese government like the Russian government either directly or indirectly actively target western governments or enterprise organisations

 

[RandyWanger]

LOL, you'd think the MOD would do a better job of onboarding a 3rd party.

 

[albionalba]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

I understand your xenophobic narrative fears but given that (even) a rogue hacker couldn't use the internet in China easily without state acceptance I'm inclined to believe it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

LOL, you'd think the MOD would do a better job of onboarding a 3rd party.

Too much privatisation to third parties especially in the military. Cheap labour.

 

[Randy McNob]

I understand your xenophobic narrative fears but given that (even) a rogue hacker couldn't use the internet in China easily without state acceptance I'm inclined to believe it.

Just like that Chinese balloon that was supposedly spying on America, that was never proven but most people accepted it was China. Unless they can prove it or China admitted it then it wasn't China / end of

 

[WATFORD zero]

Too much privatisation to third parties especially in the military. Cheap labour.

To be fair, a large proportion of companies outsource their payroll to keep employees salary info confidential

I remember back in the days of Mainframes and impact printers having to explain to one of the big five banks that having encrypted data files being printed onto confidential payslip stationary wasn't secure if their operations team knew how to use carbon paper. Most places back then, if you wanted to know anyone's salary, just ask the overnight operations teams

 

[Springal]

Just like that Chinese balloon that was supposedly spying on America, that was never proven but most people accepted it was China. Unless they can prove it or China admitted it then it wasn't China / end of

To early in this instance of course but there’s huge amounts of evidence the Chinese sponsor attacks on western entities. Even if it’s not the government itself, it’s encouraged by organisations in their country or even supported by the government.

 

[sparkie]

They hack us, we hack them.

I'm struggling to be surprised tbh.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

To be fair, a large proportion of companies outsource their payroll to keep employees salary info confidential

I remember back in the days of Mainframes and impact printers having to explain to one of the big five banks that having encrypted data files being printed onto confidential payslip stationary wasn't secure if their operations team knew how to use carbon paper. Most places back then, if you wanted to know anyone's salary, just ask the overnight operations teams

I don't think the amount someone is paid is particularly of use to anyone but where the pay is sent and what currency it is in, is very relevant.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I don't think the amount someone is paid is particularly of use to anyone but where the pay is sent and what currency it is in, is very relevant.

The amount people were being paid was the hottest gossip in a lot of places I worked

If this 'getting hacked' consists of getting a few people's bank details then I think the publicity around it will be far more important to any hacker (particularly if another State) than any actual information taken.

 

[jordanseagull]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

What absolute drivel Cyber attacks between nation states are two a penny, some more severe than others.

 

[Mellotron]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

Hang on, you don't think governments spy on each other? Really?!

 

[LamieRobertson]

I’d be pretty hacked off about this…….

Someone had to say it!

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Has the Daily Mail/Express blamed Meghan yet? Or immigrants or Sadiq Khan?

 

[Zeberdi]

when they say "China" presumably this would be a rogue hacker based in China rather than the Chinese State Government, but I suppose it's suits a xenephobic narrative the government likes to peddle

I don’t think you can pin this on Tory xenophobia or ‘rogue hackers’ - there is plenty of evidence that Chinese backed spy agencies and Chinese contracted security firms (and those of Russia) have carried out cyberattacks on the West - in fact it is a major security risk now and they are increasing in sophistication and frequency. There is a limit to plausible deniability when you have a Country like China, where the Chinese Communist Party and the State are effectively a fusion of one centralised system of governance.

We have the same capabilities (and probably carry out a similar level of attacks)

 

[swindonseagull]

My pension was paid in ok they didn’t get 唔紧要，我嘅養老金有支付