Child Benefit Changes

[Beach Hut]

Anyone else received the details of the changes from 07th January next year.......

Looks like Dragons Den for me - I'm out

 

[tinx]

Yep and me.

I don't mind missing out if it is fairly done but a couple both earning £49,000 each a year get to keep their child benefit but we lose ours with a single income well below the income of the couple still claiming theirs.

 

[Beach Hut]

Yep and me.

I don't mind missing out if it is fairly done but a couple both earning £49,000 each a year get to keep their child benefit but we lose ours with a single income well below the income of the couple still claiming theirs.

Exactly where we are as well, oh well

 

[Lush]

Exactly where we are as well, oh well

That's dreadful. How on earth are you going to pay for the Mini's skiing trip now?

 

[Beach Hut]

That's dreadful. How on earth are you going to pay for the Mini's skiing trip now?

Err, I have paid for it already since you asked

 

[TrevorDove]

Yup - the equivalent of a £2000 pay cut. Nice.

Glad the bloke at the end of the road keeps his benefits, must be expensive being at home all day doing f-all.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So your households have someone earning more than £60k and you think you should get child benefit ? REALLY !!??!!??!!

 

[Butch Willykins]

I still think the whole think is grossly unfair on single people without kids.

I don't get why we pay people to have kids?

 

[beorhthelm]

the answer to all this nonsence is means testing or taxing benefits.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

So your households have someone earning more than £60k and you think you should get child benefit ? REALLY !!??!!??!!

But is it right that two people earning just under 50k each get to keep it, whereas one earning 60k loses it?

IMO, it's an outdated benefit anyway, but surely it should be the household's total income that is takn into account?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Yup - the equivalent of a £2000 pay cut. Nice.

Glad the bloke at the end of the road keeps his benefits, must be expensive being at home all day doing f-all.

so you got 2.5 kids?

 

[The Modfather]

But is it right that two people earning just under 50k each get to keep it, whereas one earning 60k loses it?

IMO, it's an outdated benefit anyway, but surely it should be the household's total income that is takn into account?

This.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

the answer to all this nonsence is means testing or taxing benefits.

I agree although I think some consideration should be made to harmonise the taxing and benefits of individuals. By that I mean, if you're taxed as an individual then your benefits should be calculated as an individual. If you're taxed as a couple then benefits should be calculated as a couple.

Currently you're taxed as an individual but benefits are calculated as a couple - highly unfair.

 

[tinx]

But is it right that two people earning just under 50k each get to keep it, whereas one earning 60k loses it?

IMO, it's an outdated benefit anyway, but surely it should be the household's total income that is takn into account?

Exactly. I don't mind losing it but it needs to be fair to everyone and not penalise some but not others.

 

[TrevorDove]

So your households have someone earning more than £60k and you think you should get child benefit ? REALLY !!??!!??!!

Didn't say that, I think no-one should get it.

Fairs, fair. Live within your means.

 

[LadySeagull]

So your households have someone earning more than £60k and you think you should get child benefit ? REALLY !!??!!??!!

This...£60K is a bloody good salary IMHO and frankly it's shocking that anyone should get any benefits on top of that.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

But is it right that two people earning just under 50k each get to keep it, whereas one earning 60k loses it?

IMO, it's an outdated benefit anyway, but surely it should be the household's total income that is takn into account?

Once again I agree - my post #13 would cover the unfairness.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I still think the whole think is grossly unfair on single people without kids.

I don't get why we pay people to have kids?

Who's going to look after you when you're old then? Having kids is expensive, even if one is sensible and one lives within one's means. It is to the benefit of society at large if children do not grow up in (relative) poverty. That's not to say that the system has been satisfactory.

 

[TrevorDove]

so you got 2.5 kids?

Two kids - aprox £1600 benefit
Tax - £500 odd.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I still think the whole think is grossly unfair on single people without kids.

I don't get why we pay people to have kids?

I might be wrong, but surely child benefit was to ensure children of less well off couples didn't suffer poverty - even when I was single I wouldn't have begrudged couples getting money to ensure children were well fed and clothed ?