[Football] Chelsea’s finest supporters......

[dazzer6666]

A longtime acquaintance of mine, now in his early 60s was part of the 'group' that met in a pub beforehand, then went to the Chelsea game ONLY if there were no black players in the team, and at the game stood with back to the pitch mouthing at people and looking for people to fight after the game. I have spent a long hour discussing this with him. The football and the racism were irrelevant - it was all about the risk, danger and general buzz. He had mental health issues (depression, especially seasonal, and attention-defecit being part of it).

You will never eradicate racism and homophobia. I don't care. As long as it remains illegal, and people get arrested, banned for football, banged up or sent on graffiti removal manouvres, all nicely reported in the media, generally shamed, possibly sacked from their job, driven into an increasingly small and militant and self destructive band of cockwombles - or take a ****ing good look at themselves and change, then I'm happy.

Still, I would absolutely laugh my bollocks off if Abramovic says '**** you, I'm off'. As we saw under his predecessor, Chelsea do not have the fan base, cachet or earning potential to do anything other than implode and slip down the leagues like a West London version of the Mackems as they attempt to unload players and deal with a cash flow problem that would make the Haitian encomy looke like a damned good investment opportunity..

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[Mackenzie]

I mean.....

What hope is there?

does he not see the irony?

Replying to @danlevene @talkSPORT
My daughter asked me why everyone hates Chelsea fans..how many kids are going to get bullied at school because you continue to sensationalise it make a point of banning the “y” word not branding fans as racist for singing a 50 year old football chant

I know it is besides the point, but do some of your (Spurs) fans still refer to themselves as "yid army"? Or is that something that has died out.

 

[Mackenzie]

A longtime acquaintance of mine, now in his early 60s was part of the 'group' that met in a pub beforehand, then went to the Chelsea game ONLY if there were no black players in the team, and at the game stood with back to the pitch mouthing at people and looking for people to fight after the game. I have spent a long hour discussing this with him. The football and the racism were irrelevant - it was all about the risk, danger and general buzz. He had mental health issues (depression, especially seasonal, and attention-defecit being part of it).

You will never eradicate racism and homophobia. I don't care. As long as it remains illegal, and people get arrested, banned for football, banged up or sent on graffiti removal manouvres, all nicely reported in the media, generally shamed, possibly sacked from their job, driven into an increasingly small and militant and self destructive band of cockwombles - or take a ****ing good look at themselves and change, then I'm happy.

Still, I would absolutely laugh my bollocks off if Abramovic says '**** you, I'm off'. As we saw under his predecessor, Chelsea do not have the fan base, cachet or earning potential to do anything other than implode and slip down the leagues like a West London version of the Mackems as they attempt to unload players and deal with a cash flow problem that would make the Haitian encomy looke like a damned good investment opportunity..

 

[carlzeiss]

I know it is besides the point, but do some of your (Spurs) fans still refer to themselves as "yid army"? Or is that something that has died out.

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[Hungry Joe]

I know it is besides the point, but do some of your (Spurs) fans still refer to themselves as "yid army"? Or is that something that has died out.

They're still called / refer to themselves as the Yid Army. I saw a white van the other day with the personalised number plate Y1D 4RMY. As alluded to on another thread, the Spurs fans I know say this is an example of fans turning a term of abuse into something to wear with pride, making it their own. I guess there's a parallel with some black people referring to themselves as the N word and that being very different from someone who's isn't black using that word to a black person / group. It's a tricky one. What isn't in doubt, in my mind anyway, is that singing blatant anti-Semitic or racist chants is just pondscum behaviour, particularly in these more enlightened times.

 

[Grombleton]

Some people have moved on and grown up. However it’s quite clear when you see the pictures from the latest incidents that some haven’t.

There will always be an element at every club, ours included, who will overstep the mark, think it’s more a case of whether they get called out for it or for others to join in sheeplike as per your example!

For me, it's the fact that they've claimed its acceptable by filing it under 'just what happens at football', or 'part of the football experience' or some other excuse to hide the fact that they're a shitty human being.

 

[Me and my Monkey]

The trinity of racism, anti-Semitism and homophobia all in 1 week. Amazing.

They could top that if we have Lady Lino on Sunday, an opportunity to spew forth some good old fashioned misogynistic, sexist bile. Sadly, I do believe however that a sizeable minority of our own fans would enjoy joining in with that one.

 

[AmexRuislip]

self appointed Chelsea's finest Jason Mariner

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Nice straight jacket.

A longtime acquaintance of mine, now in his early 60s was part of the 'group' that met in a pub beforehand, then went to the Chelsea game ONLY if there were no black players in the team, and at the game stood with back to the pitch mouthing at people and looking for people to fight after the game. I have spent a long hour discussing this with him. The football and the racism were irrelevant - it was all about the risk, danger and general buzz. He had mental health issues (depression, especially seasonal, and attention-defecit being part of it).

You will never eradicate racism and homophobia. I don't care. As long as it remains illegal, and people get arrested, banned for football, banged up or sent on graffiti removal manouvres, all nicely reported in the media, generally shamed, possibly sacked from their job, driven into an increasingly small and militant and self destructive band of cockwombles - or take a ****ing good look at themselves and change, then I'm happy.


Still, I would absolutely laugh my bollocks off if Abramovic says '**** you, I'm off'. As we saw under his predecessor, Chelsea do not have the fan base, cachet or earning potential to do anything other than implode and slip down the leagues like a West London version of the Mackems as they attempt to unload players and deal with a cash flow problem that would make the Haitian encomy looke like a damned good investment opportunity..

Great post HWT

Isn't Abramovich of Jewish decendency!
Applied for Israeli citizenship!

https://rbkclocalstudies.wordpress.com/2016/08/18/hidden-in-plain-sight-chelseas-jewish-cemetery/

A Chelsea view:
https://www.talkchelsea.net/news/wh...me-themselves-for-fans-anti-semitic-chanting/

 

[Nixonator]

We have dished it out readily in the past, let's not live in a self-righteous cloud cuckoo land.

 

[Me and my Monkey]

We have dished it out readily in the past, let's not live in a self-righteous cloud cuckoo land.

I assume that’s a royal “we”.

 

[Justice]

We have dished it out readily in the past, let's not live in a self-righteous cloud cuckoo land.

Was thinking the same, Albion could always mass a decent firm back in the day with some right headcases in the mix. This idea we always have been a respectable family club is utter bollocks.

 

[Nixonator]

I assume that’s a royal “we”.

You assume correctly mainly because of when I was born, but I'm sure there are many on here who did, who are no more a racist than I am and are not proud of themselves.

 

[nicko31]

Some of the fans wear racism as a badge of honour.

Lets not forget this either.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ll-fans-convicted-of-racist-violence-in-paris

Really nasty element still exists........

 

[Mackenzie]

They're still called / refer to themselves as the Yid Army. I saw a white van the other day with the personalised number plate Y1D 4RMY. As alluded to on another thread, the Spurs fans I know say this is an example of fans turning a term of abuse into something to wear with pride, making it their own. I guess there's a parallel with some black people referring to themselves as the N word and that being very different from someone who's isn't black using that word to a black person / group. It's a tricky one. What isn't in doubt, in my mind anyway, is that singing blatant anti-Semitic or racist chants is just pondscum behaviour, particularly in these more enlightened times.

It’s all about context I guess, we do it ourselves on occasion with “1-0 to the nancy boys” chants.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

They're still called / refer to themselves as the Yid Army. I saw a white van the other day with the personalised number plate Y1D 4RMY. As alluded to on another thread, the Spurs fans I know say this is an example of fans turning a term of abuse into something to wear with pride, making it their own. I guess there's a parallel with some black people referring to themselves as the N word and that being very different from someone who's isn't black using that word to a black person / group. It's a tricky one. What isn't in doubt, in my mind anyway, is that singing blatant anti-Semitic or racist chants is just pondscum behaviour, particularly in these more enlightened times.

Not something I particularity agree with, but you are pretty correct.

But compare it to

Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz, Hitler's gonna gas 'em again, We can't stop them, The yids from Tottenham, The yids from White Hart Lane - Yid is not really the main issue with this chant...

 

[oneillco]

Was thinking the same, Albion could always mass a decent firm back in the day with some right headcases in the mix. This idea we always have been a respectable family club is utter bollocks.

Yes I agree, but we were hardly in the same league; a hardcore in the hundreds not thousands, and we were never a recruiting ground for the NF and its poisonous descendents...

 

[Hungry Joe]

But compare it to

Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz, Hitler's gonna gas 'em again, We can't stop them, The yids from Tottenham, The yids from White Hart Lane - Yid is not really the main issue with this chant...

Absolutely, there's no comparison, and as Mackenzie says, context is important.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yes I agree, but we were hardly in the same league; a hardcore in the hundreds not thousands, and we were never a recruiting ground for the NF and its poisonous descendents...

British bulldog paper on sale at most home games at the bottom of goldstone lane- 80's, FACT
regards
DR

 

[aolstudios]

Yes I agree, but we were hardly in the same league; a hardcore in the hundreds not thousands, and we were never a recruiting ground for the NF and its poisonous descendents...

Not so sure. They certainly tried one current poster is evidence they had some success

 

[Hungry Joe]

Brighton and the wider area, our current and past 'firms', and some of our general support has and has always had a racist, homophobic etc element. We're no different in the range of views held by fans than any other club. Where there is a difference is in scale and how deeply some of the more unpleasant elements infest BHA FC as opposed to a club like Chelsea or West Ham, we're not in the same league (thankfully).