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Acker79

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Corruption and Influence Peddling in the English Game - The Dim in Beirut (from march) I know this has been posted before, but...

So, investigate some more I did. And some of the stuff I found out surprised even me.

During United’s title winning 2010/11 season, they only lost 4 league games. I looked at who refereed those games and how long they then spent without being assigned Manchester United games as well their subsequent trend of behavior towards United.

Michael Oliver took charge of their first defeat, the February 2011 2-1 loss at Wolves. He was not given another Manchester United game to referee until December 2011. Since then, Oliver has had 2 United games.

United have won both, with Oliver refusing to give a clear Fulham penalty in the 1-0 United win late last season at Old Trafford; a game came right at the end of the title race. A few weeks ago, Oliver gave United a penalty for a shocking dive by Danny Welbeck in the home win against Wigan.

The second game United lost was away to Chelsea. Martin Atkinson was the referee then and some of his decisions incurred the wrath of Alex Ferguson. Atkinson was not given another United game to referee for an ENTIRE YEAR.

Atkinson was further punished with his decisions that went against United that day. He was not given a single premier league game to referee for a full month. Even worse, he was subsequently given 3 lower league games to referee that season- when he’d previously not officiated a single one
that campaign.

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The final United loss of the 2010/11 season came at the Emirates, where Chris Foy refereed a 1-0 Arsenal win. It will come to no surprise to people to know that Foy was subsequently not assigned a United league game for, again, AN ENTIRE YEAR.

He did however referee 2 United games in the cups during that time. The first was in the Carling Cup against Crystal Palace. He awarded United a penalty. The second was at City in the FA Cup. United got a penalty and Vincent Kompany was sent off early in the game.

To resume, we’ve just analyzed what happened to the 4 referees that officiated United’s 4 league losses in the 2010/11 season. 2 of them were not given any more United league games for a full year (Atkinson and Foy), a third for 9 months (Oliver). 2 of those referees gave United penalties in the very next game (Foy and Dowd) they took charge of and one refused to give a blatant one to the opponents (Oliver). Martin Atkinson, was not given premier league games to officiate for an entire month and assigned to 3 lower league games.

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I also looked at Mike Jones after prompting from the comments board. Jones refereed the 1-1 home draw with Newcastle last season and falsely awarded Demba Ba a penalty.

Subsequently, Jones was not given a single football game, at ANY level, to referee for an entire month. The next United game he was handed came a few months later, the 2-0 home win against Stoke which saw… You guessed it: 2 penalties awarded to Manchester United which, according to reports, were “very soft”.

How about Mark Halsey? Well, when he gave WBA a debatable penalty in the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford in May 2005 it was his 5th United game that season. He then also went an ENTIRE YEAR without being given any United games to referee. From 5 games in a season to none for a year. His
record since then? He’s refereed 11 Man Utd games which have seen 11 United wins: the latest coming at Anfield, where 3 controversial decisions went the away team’s way.

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In terms of trends, considering what we discovered about Alan Wiley and Mark Clattenburg (whose record with no United games to referee now stands at 36 league games since he took charge of the 6-1 home loss to City), there’s enough to make you wonder what exactly is going on in the referee selection process.​
 






Acker79

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John Salako says his inital reaction was foul by evans, and on replay he was certain it was a foul and clattenberg got it wrong. Also sounde like hernandez was offside for the third goal.
 


Lady Whistledown

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I think the title of most valuable player for Man United now goes to Mark Clattenburg.

Absolute joke of a game now. Ruined.

It's only ruined if you're on the receiving end of it. Sounds like it was a BRILLIANT game for the neutral.

How dull would football be without controversy? Take our last home game. We were turgid until the players got wound up by a few grievances against the referee, suddenly they were bang up for it. Alright, they still lost, but at least they showed a bit of fight. Lots of terrible games have been markedly improved by (perceived) poor decisions.
 


R. Slicker

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I hate Chelsea and Man Utd, but i was watching a cracking game of football, and Clattenburg and his linos have totally f***ed it up

Agreed HG. I also thought Ashley Young went down like a sack of spuds to get Ivanovic sent off.
 




HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Nov 9, 2009
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Cmon chelsea just the 1 goal would be nice about now ta

Unlucky mate, could have bought a remote controlled tortoise with the winnings
 




HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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It's only ruined if you're on the receiving end of it. Sounds like it was a BRILLIANT game for the neutral.

How dull would football be without controversy? Take our last home game. We were turgid until the players got wound up by a few grievances against the referee, suddenly they were bang up for it. Alright, they still lost, but at least they showed a bit of fight. Lots of terrible games have been markedly improved by (perceived) poor decisions.

It was till Clattenberg tried to be the star of the show. Thinks hes Howard Webb.
 




Lady Whistledown

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I can't wait to see all the usual hilarious Howard Webb jokes and gifs recycled for Mark Clattenburg via Twitter and email all evening, and probably all day tomorrow too.
 


Seasider78

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Think Torres got the booking because he was on the floor holding just below his knee when there was clearly no contact anywhere near there
 


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John Salako says his inital reaction was foul by evans, and on replay he was certain it was a foul and clattenberg got it wrong. Also sounde like hernandez was offside for the third goal.

:lolol: He's a joke.

It's all about G Nev's opinion!
 




HawkTheSeagull

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Think Torres got the booking because he was on the floor holding just below his knee when there was clearly no contact anywhere near there

There was NO contact, would have been a yellow all day long for diving, just he had obviously already been booked so he had to walk for it - good decision by the ref there.

The winning goal was offside though.
 




HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Its ok ive got 1 more game pending at 8pm tonight could end up a ok day :)

Just make sure you check raise before the floppy thing, then you may mave a chance:mad:
 




British Bulldog

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There was NO contact, would have been a yellow all day long for diving, just he had obviously already been booked so he had to walk for it - good decision by the ref there.

Think we must have been watching a different tackle as the one I saw was clearly foot on leg.
 










Buffalo Seagull

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Jun 1, 2006
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You win some, you lose some....I thought Torres should have been given a straight red for his first yellow card.
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