[Football] Cheating...we simply have to improve

[portlock seagull]

Cheats prosper in football as we all know.

Would like to see the club now fine players who don’t try to hook the ball against an opponents arm when in a harmless part of the penalty box; or go down under any near contact. As well as actual contact. Should be drilled into players during training sessions. Before anyone says, but what about VAR...have you NOT been watching?! It makes no difference, the goons in charge still don’t notice.

Also, we need to do far more time wasting, getting in the refs face, manhandling them even, abusing other players to wind them up, take a throw in forty yards further up the line, don’t give the ball back or kick it out if someone’s down etc. It might be against the general spirit of the game but feck it, football lost its integrity a long time ago so we must become more savvy. Cheat in other words.

Thoughts? I would simply love us to be universally loathed because of our “gamesmanship”, it’s something we simply have to improve at and should be coached.

 

[father_and_son]

Rather not thanks. I'll take the consequences of playing entertaining, decent football rather than watch us dive our way to PL survival.

 

[boik]

No thanks. A talented Leeds team in the 70s ruined their reputation going down that route.

 

[portlock seagull]

Rather not thanks. I'll take the consequences of playing entertaining, decent football rather than watch us dive our way to PL survival.

It’s not all about diving though is it? So many other ways you can cheat that reap rewards. Flicking the ball up to touch an opponents hand in the penalty box or aiming the ball at their hand even if they’re not blocking the goal. Simulate fouls that haven’t happened etc. I’d definitely like to see our players surround the ref and jostle / try to intimidate. Works for others. Why not give it a go? Probably good for six points a season. If we’re to take advantage of the dickheads officiating games these days, we need to improve our cheating.

 

[portlock seagull]

No thanks. A talented Leeds team in the 70s ruined their reputation going down that route.

Ah, but they were successful so point proven I guess.

 

[KZNSeagull]

No thanks. I would rather they learnt to shoot when they get half a chance. We should have won that game at least 5-1.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Connolly gets in front of defenders so that there's contact several times a game and VAR doesn't give him penalties.

 

[Easy 10]

No thanks. I would rather they learnt to shoot when they get half a chance. We should have won that game at least 5-1.

We've tried that as well. We just end up hitting the woodwork.

 

[Easy 10]

Connolly gets in front of defenders so that there's contact several times a game and VAR doesn't give him penalties.

Unfortunately I think he's earning a rep for going down a bit too easy, and I have to say, its not entirely unjustified. He has to remember though, he's not playing for Man U, he's just not going to get those decisions. Quite the reverse in fact, when you look back at what happened when Pogba bundled him over in the box.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Unfortunately I think he's earning a rep for going down a bit too easy, and I have to say, its not entirely unjustified. He has to remember though, he's not playing for Man U, he's just not going to get those decisions. Quite the reverse in fact, when you look back at what happened when Pogba bundled him over in the box.

Something similar happened when MotD highlighted Muzza's ability to 'win' free kicks. Referees suddenly noticed what we all knew and stopped giving the fouls.

 

[portlock seagull]

Something similar happened when MotD highlighted Muzza's ability to 'win' free kicks. Referees suddenly noticed what we all knew and stopped giving the fouls.

I think Murray just got older actually. Faded in his ability to, as we all do.

 

[Easy 10]

Something similar happened when MotD highlighted Muzza's ability to 'win' free kicks. Referees suddenly noticed what we all knew and stopped giving the fouls.

Yup, and Ashley Young for a spell. Refs get briefed, you become a 'marked man' for refs to expect it, till it gets to the point where you'd have to be mowed down by a combine harvester to get a decision. The SEGW has had an element of this too, often to comical effect and some lump-in-the-throat watery-eyed post match interviews. But its all of his own making.

Don't become that, Aaron.

 

[Pavilionaire]

What I find depressing about the endemic cheating is the way the commentators have normalised it. " He made the most of that" and "there was some contact but he went down easy" is shying away from the fact strikers are cheating.

There's a reason why there hasn't been a goalless draw in the Prem yet. It's because - in part - defenders are getting shafted. Attackers are no longer getting carded for simulation either.

 

[Easy 10]

"He's forced the referee into making a decision there"

Yeah, but it doesn't have to be the f*cking WRONG one, does it.

 

[portlock seagull]

What I find depressing about the endemic cheating is the way the commentators have normalised it. " He made the most of that" and "there was some contact but he went down easy" is shying away from the fact strikers are cheating.

There's a reason why there hasn't been a goalless draw in the Prem yet. It's because - in part - defenders are getting shafted. Attackers are no longer getting carded for simulation either.

Exactly this! Which is why we mustn’t get left behind and so need to up our cheating. Football is a farce. Believing it will ever not be again is just wishful thinking. Cheats prosper. If we want to prosper, then we must cheat.

 

[Lifelong Supporter]

Is Gus Poyet in work ? He would surely make an excellent gamesmanship coach !!

 

[portlock seagull]

Is Gus Poyet in work ? He would surely make an excellent gamesmanship coach !!

He was a master of this craft. Get him in as cheats coach I say.

 

[Easy 10]

Can we stop calling it cheating please. Its commonly known as the "dark arts".

 

[darkwolf666]

Ah, but they were successful so point proven I guess.

And look how much respect they have nearly 50 years later... No thanks!

 

[OzMike]

Sad to say , but if we don't use opponents tactics against them we will get left behind.
Will be a sorry day, but seems inevitable.