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[News] Charles Bronson Parole Hearing.



Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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The authorities are really between a rock and a hard place, they let him out despite being clearly institutionalised and he then reoffends the resulting shit storm would be the ultimate witchunt.

On the flip side, he’s an old man, if he has the correct care on the outside maybe he could have a peaceful existence?

Tough one.
 






Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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Not an expert but it can’t be a good idea to go from 23 hours a day lock-up to suddenly walking the streets. It is very expensive to keep someone locked up which will come into the equation. Glad it’s not me making the decision.
 


southstandandy

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Jul 9, 2003
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Seems a complete fruit cake (with extra nuts) but maybe should be given a chance in an open prison and if he breaks any conditions there, then back he goes to full prison. As said he is 70, so less likely to do so much damage these days.

Considering the average time spent in jail for a murderer is 16.5 years in the UK, nearly 50 years does seem a bit excessive considering he hasn't killed anyone (yet).
 








portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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Seems a complete fruit cake (with extra nuts) but maybe should be given a chance in an open prison and if he breaks any conditions there, then back he goes to full prison. As said he is 70, so less likely to do so much damage these days.

Considering the average time spent in jail for a murderer is 16.5 years in the UK, nearly 50 years does seem a bit excessive considering he hasn't killed anyone (yet).
It’s the yet bit that makes me think they’ve done a good job. Keep him there. Until he dies.
 


SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
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The system made him the way he is now. They should shoulder some of the blame. Tough decision though, maybe they should give him a chance in open prison first?
 




A mex eyecan

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watched the documentary on him the other evening in which he still laughs about ‘cutting to pieces’ a fellow inmate with a jam jar he had cracked the top off. Yeah, sure he safe to let out
 




SeagullinExile

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West Upper Seagull

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Oct 31, 2003
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Really tough one this. Watched the documentary recently and bearing in mind he’s served far longer inside than a murderer, it’s easy to understand why he feels he should be released. On the flip side, he’s been inside since 1974, when he was a young man, and you have to think that he will seriously lack the social skills to cope with today’s society. I think I’m on the side of a gradual transition starting with seeing how he behaves in an open prison.
 


Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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There is a reason he is kept locked up 23 hours a day. His record of hostage taking and intimidation is horrendous. Ask yourself if you would like the responsibility of signing his release papers?

People talking about open prison conditions. This is a man who isn’t trusted on normal location in a Cat B prison. No way he can be paroled.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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The authorities are really between a rock and a hard place, they let him out despite being clearly institutionalised and he then reoffends the resulting shit storm would be the ultimate witchunt.

On the flip side, he’s an old man, if he has the correct care on the outside maybe he could have a peaceful existence?

Tough one.
Are you getting soft in your old age? 😃

Not difficult at all IMO, stays inside for the rest of his life.
 




Algernon

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Sep 9, 2012
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Total nutcase and wired completely differently to anyone nearing normality.
If they let him out he'll do something bananas and end up back inside within a month.
Prison unfortunately is his home.

As an aside, my brother's ex was a prison officer wherever he was kept 20 ish "odd" years ago and he gifted her one of his cartoon drawings.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Not an expert but it can’t be a good idea to go from 23 hours a day lock-up to suddenly walking the streets. It is very expensive to keep someone locked up which will come into the equation. Glad it’s not me making the decision.
The Parole board do not consider the cost of keeping someone locked up as part of their decision making.

The test is purely does the parole board consider it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public that the person be confined to prison.
 




Javeaseagull

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The Parole board do not consider the cost of keeping someone locked up as part of their decision making.

The test is purely does the parole board consider it is no longer necessary for the protection of the public that the person be confined to prison.
You are right of course but the people above them will want to reduce the cost of keeping him. This could mean a less secure location than 23 hours a day lock up which is the most expensive option. As I said, he is not trusted to behave on normal location in a Cat B prison so can hardly be considered for release. Not sure why he would be in front of a Parole Board unless it is a statuary requirement having been banged up for so long.
 




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