[Football] Changes to added on time 2023/24

[Bodian]

Apologies if already a thread on this - PGMOL have announced some changes in approach for this season.

Premier League referees to add on time lost for goal celebrations this season

New time-wasting regulations are being introduced across the English Football League, including calculating the exact time for penalties and red cards

www.theguardian.com

https://www.efl.com/news/2023/july/match-officials-adopt-new-approach-for-202324-season/ - EFL, but seems to also apply to EPL

Some of the things - more detail in efl page.

• Exact time of goal celebrations, substitutions, injuries, penalties (from offence to kick), red cards (offence till leave the pitch) to be added on instead of nominal amount;
• High threshold in terms of contact remains;
• Players to receive treatment off-field whenever possible;
• Cautioning players purposely delaying restart after 'injuries';
• Not standing 10 yards away at free-kicks, refs 'reminded' to book them.

 

[Napper]

If implemented then a good move.

I feel sorry for Villa fans. They are going to be playing late into the night

 

[7:18]

The last one is big for me, would help the game flow a lot more

 

[dwayne]

So is this going to be like the world cup?

Hope so

 

[Muzzman]

The refs will implement these rules in the first week, and then revert back to their poor decision making for the rest of the season. How will they be 'reminded', the crowd reminds them every match and they refuse to book players for time-wasting. Unless VAR are planning to have a word in their shell-like during the match, I don't have any confidence we'll notice any meaningful changes.

 

[Mellotron]

Sounds good if it happens. Won't hold my breath.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The refs will implement these rules in the first week, and then revert back to their poor decision making for the rest of the season. How will they be 'reminded', the crowd reminds them every match and they refuse to book players for time-wasting. Unless VAR are planning to have a word in their shell-like during the match, I don't have any confidence we'll notice any meaningful changes.

They will still retain the new rules for when it suits a game position for one of the big 6 clubs.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I was incensed by the length of time Arsenal were taking for goal celebrations against us on New Year's eve,
It was so obviously a tactic, deliberately being employed.

I'd never really taken any notice of it before that game.

 

[Bozza]

As others have said, it all sounds very promising, but will it actually happen?

What really strikes me though, is the implicit confession that until now, added time has all been entirely made up.

 

[pb21]

Players to receive treatment off-field whenever possible;

Is this a change?

I envisage an increase in potential head injuries if so, or regardless actually.

 

[Hugo Rune]

If implemented then a good move.

I feel sorry for Villa fans. They are going to be playing late into the night

I don’t.

I was physically shaking with anger after our home game with them. I pay money to watch players play football, not lie about on the pitch wasting time and taking it in turns to get a yellow.

 

[doogie004]

Sooner we take it out of refs hands and put a big count down clock on screen and stop it for any issues so the whole world can see the better

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Is this a change?

I envisage an increase in potential head injuries if so, or regardless actually.

No, laws of game have always stated unless serious no treatment should be given on the pitch

Treatment of Injuries Guidance
The Laws of the Game and FIFA instructions indicate that any player requiring treatment must be
given such treatment off the field of play, with the least delay possible being made in the progress of
the match.

These guidelines outline the procedures to be adopted.

(The Football Association, Medical Education Centre, suggest as a guide it would take a skilled
Therapist from 20 – 50 seconds to carry out an assessment but it may take longer for the more
serious or complicated injuries or for head injuries.)

Referees must follow the instruction below when dealing with injured players:
 Play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if a
player is, in their opinion, only slightly injured
 Play is stopped if, in their opinion, a player is seriously
injured or receives a head injury
 After stopping play for a serious injury or when recognising
the need for medical attention to a player the Referee
authorises up to two medical representatives to enter the
field of play to assess the injury only and arrange for the player’s safe and swift removal from the
field of play
 The stretcher-bearers should enter the field of play only after receiving a signal from the referee.
 The Referee ensures an injured player is safely removed from the field of play
 A player is not allowed to be treated on the field of play
 Any player bleeding from a wound must leave the field of play. They may not return until the
Referee or, if appropriate, 4th Official (where appointed) is satisfied that the bleeding has stopped
 As soon as the Referee has authorised the doctors to enter the field, the player must leave the
field, either on the stretcher or on foot. If a player does not comply they are to be cautioned for
unsporting behaviour
 An injured player may only return to the field of play after the match has started
 An injured player may only re-enter the field from the touch line when the ball is in play. When
the ball is out of play, the injured player may re-enter from any of the boundary lines
 The Referee alone is authorised to allow an injured player to re-enter the field whether the ball is
in play or not

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Apologies if already a thread on this - PGMOL have announced some changes in approach for this season.

Premier League referees to add on time lost for goal celebrations this season

New time-wasting regulations are being introduced across the English Football League, including calculating the exact time for penalties and red cards

www.theguardian.com

https://www.efl.com/news/2023/july/match-officials-adopt-new-approach-for-202324-season/ - EFL, but seems to also apply to EPL

Some of the things - more detail in efl page.

• Exact time of goal celebrations, substitutions, injuries, penalties (from offence to kick), red cards (offence till leave the pitch) to be added on instead of nominal amount;
• High threshold in terms of contact remains;
• Players to receive treatment off-field whenever possible;
• Cautioning players purposely delaying restart after 'injuries';
• Not standing 10 yards away at free-kicks, refs 'reminded' to book them.

All great and all still subjective. Fans of ‘injured’ players wasting time will still bang on about the injustice of it all. Fans will continue to dispute the time added on, whether players are 10 yards away or whether or not the contact threshold has been hit. If the fans don’t support referees in implementing the rules then nothing will change and fans definitely won’t support them. Fans are the problem. Just read some of the posts on this thread.

 

[Garyoldfan]

Yeah ‘nominal’ is a weird admission

 

[Uh_huh_him]

All great and all still subjective. Fans of ‘injured’ players wasting time will still bang on about the injustice of it all. Fans will continue to dispute the time added on, whether players are 10 yards away or whether or not the contact threshold has been hit. If the fans don’t support referees in implementing the rules then nothing will change and fans definitely won’t support them. Fans are the problem. Just read some of the posts on this thread.

Fans are not the problem.

Fans, players, managers want the team to exploit the laws to ensure they win the game.
That is always going to be the case.

What is undoubtedly an issue, is that the referees don't consistently apply whatever laws are in place.

Fans ranting about the issue is because there is no consistency.

These rules won't change that.
Brighton Players will be booked for not being 10 yards away, when we're 1-0 up against United.
United Players won't get booked when they do the same thing to us.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Fans are not the problem.

Fans, players, managers want the team to exploit the laws to ensure they win the game.
That is always going to be the case.

What is undoubtedly an issue, is that the referees don't consistently apply whatever laws are in place.

Fans ranting about the issue is because there is no consistency.

These rules won't change that.
Brighton Players will be booked for not being 10 yards away, when we're 1-0 up against United.
United Players won't get booked when they do the same thing to us.

If I believed that then I wouldn’t go to games and wouldn’t even follow the sport.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

If I believed that then I wouldn’t go to games and wouldn’t even follow the sport.

Clearly you didn't go to White Hart Lane last season.

 

[Official Old Man]

These rules won't change that.
Brighton Players will be booked for not being 10 yards away, when we're 1-0 up against United.
United Players won't get booked when they do the same thing to us.

Fact

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

Welcome to the first 3-hour games! more time for hot dawgs and beer, though.