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[Football] Change how matches are timed



raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,387
Wiltshire
Remove timing from the referee, from their desire to let play continue until ball ends up on half way line. 35 mins (or whatever) active play each half - stop the clock when ball is dead. Time wasting disappears, doubts about bias disappear, 2-2 result in this case.
 






kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
9,809
Absoulutely. They are trying to make the game more accurate and consistent by using VAR, yet the actual duration of the match - something that could easily be difined by technology - is left to the referee's discretion. Ludicrous.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Remove timing from the referee, from their desire to let play continue until ball ends up on half way line. 35 mins (or whatever) active play each half - stop the clock when ball is dead. Time wasting disappears, doubts about bias disappear, 2-2 result in this case.

Should have been done years back when Fergie was bullying referee's over time added on and penalties almost weekly.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,025
thought this for a long time. dont agree taking the rugby approach but there are clear rules on time added on, stick to them. ref seems able to add another 30sec, a minute or 3 for no reason.
 


AlbionInUs

Active member
Oct 11, 2019
139
US
Good idea in theory, but it’s harder than you think. As a ref, there is so much to focus on. It is hard to start and stop the watch so often. And what if you forget?
 








AlbionInUs

Active member
Oct 11, 2019
139
US
In top level football, time keeping shouldn't be with the ref. Like you say, he's got other things to focus on rather than looking at his watch.

So are we changing the rules only for the Prem? Everywhere it is 90 minutes, but here it isin’t?
 


phoenix

Well-known member
May 18, 2009
2,871
Absoulutely. They are trying to make the game more accurate and consistent by using VAR, yet the actual duration of the match - something that could easily be difined by technology - is left to the referee's discretion. Ludicrous.

Have you actually read the op's post !!!!
 








GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,188
Gloucester
Good idea in theory, but it’s harder than you think. As a ref, there is so much to focus on. It is hard to start and stop the watch so often. And what if you forget?

The 4th. official has next to f*** all to do at the moment. Be good to make 'em earn their not unsubstantial match fees.
 




raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,387
Wiltshire
Good idea in theory, but it’s harder than you think. As a ref, there is so much to focus on. It is hard to start and stop the watch so often. And what if you forget?

The ref shouldn't do it, have a timekeeper in the stands (5th official). When the ball is dead (out of play, or ref blows for an offence etc) the clock is stopped. I really don't think it's hard.
 


raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,387
Wiltshire
In top level football, time keeping shouldn't be with the ref. Like you say, he's got other things to focus on rather than looking at his watch.

Exactly, take the job away from the ref. The ref is somehow too involved with the ebb and flow of the game. Timekeeper, 5th official, in the stands, visible clock on the stand.
 


portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
17,780
Stop it. We lost. That’s all there is to it. All this BS tinkering, meddling and striving for perfection has ruined the game as it is. And if your objective is fairness, don’t be so bloody naive. The “level playing field” is so weighted with gold towards the big clubs, we’re practically attacking a 90 degree slope. That’s the real injustice. Not refs and rules, as life sucking as VAR is.
 


raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,387
Wiltshire
Stop it. We lost. That’s all there is to it. All this BS tinkering, meddling and striving for perfection has ruined the game as it is. And if your objective is fairness, don’t be so bloody naive. The “level playing field” is so weighted with gold towards the big clubs, we’re practically attacking a 90 degree slope. That’s the real injustice. Not refs and rules, as life sucking as VAR is.

I don't think it would be bullshit tinkering, rather a fundamental, positive change. Then all the post match threads can just be about the football! I agree with your sentiment though, that such a change would only be made if the Top 6 started asking for it...and they rarely seem to have a reason to ???
 




Snowflake

Active member
Jan 11, 2018
167
It's not Bullshit. It's a good idea alround. One thing Basketball has right. Shorten the time of half's but you will get an exact guarantee of ball in play time.
 


Shropshire Seagull

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2004
8,790
Telford
Needs to be changed, use rugby's example.

Yeah but, league or union?
League, the hooter sounds on the second time is up - game over.
Union, play continues until ball next goes dead.

I like the idea of a big digital clock on the stand [one at each end so everyone can see] and a ref carrying a clicker that starts and stops this big clock ticking down from 45 mins [or the 4th official can do this]
Any injury or time when ball is out of play, ref stops the big clock and then starts it immediately play resumes.
No more time wasting as the ref has stopped the clock. Slow goal kicks, throw-ins or feigning injury no longer an issue.
Best of all, we always get our 45mins money's worth.
 


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