Cat A and Cat B games

[kingcole]

How is the club you support going to reduce the price of your season ticket if the quality of the opposition (which is subjective) is lower then?

The season ticket is already lower enough for STH's not to worry about some games being reduced in price by a couple of quid. In fact, if every game came down in price by £2 or £3 a ST would still be excellent value.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Yes - that's the rules - equivalent seats have to be the same price.

Fortunately, a market economy runs the world in which we live, so I stick by the fact it's everything.

Those who wish to hug trees, eat spinach, ban bombs, not wear clothes, do drugs, have stupid colour hair, have holes in their tongues, riot and have free school dinners had better believe it!

Fact; not all economies on this planet are market based economies so your assertion that supply and demand is basis of everything is wrong. What about regulation in market based economies?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

The season ticket is already lower enough for STH's not to worry about some games being reduced in price by a couple of quid. In fact, if every game came down in price by £2 or £3 a ST would still be excellent value.

If you are reducing prices for home and away supporters by a certain percentage for certain matches then surely its unfair that you don't reduce season ticket prices for the said matches too?

 

[Notters]

If you are reducing prices for home and away supporters by a certain percentage for certain matches then surely its unfair that you don't reduce season ticket prices for the said matches too?

Well they just put the prices for match tickets up without putting the price of season tickets up, didn't they?

 

[kingcole]

Fact; not all economies on this planet are market based economies so your assertion that supply and demand is basis of everything is wrong. What about regulation in market based economies?

Please enlighten me - Just one? Any one?

And don't cheat by including non human economies or the people who still shelter under wattle and daub in Africa or tree houses in the Brazilian rain forest.

 

[kingcole]

Well they just put the prices for match tickets up without putting the price of season tickets up, didn't they?

They were kept the same - travel is now included - same as for ST.

But I do appreciate you were kind of supporting my argument. And that reply would be the official club one, I am sure!

 

[Notters]

They were kept the same - travel is now included - same as for ST.

But I do appreciate you were kind of supporting my argument. And that reply would be the official club one, I am sure!

No they weren't, that's why everyone's been ranting and raving for weeks. The price of all match-by-match tickets has gone up by £4 per match, £2 of which is for travel. Season tickets have gone up by £2 per match.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Well they just put the prices for match tickets up without putting the price of season tickets up, didn't they?

Yes they did and they shouldn't have put the individual match prices up in my opinion. The season ticket price was increased because of the travel levy and the same factor should be applied to the individual match prices too.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Please enlighten me - Just one? Any one?

And don't cheat by including non human economies or the people who still shelter under wattle and daub in Africa or tree houses in the Brazilian rain forest.

Germany, Sweden, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam.

 

[drew]

I agree we do live in a market based economy but in this country we have various regulators that set the price of the commodities we buy.

In the FA Cup match revenues are split between both clubs and the FA, in the Premier League and Football League match revenues are kept by the home club. Both these systems are working in the market economy that we live in but are different in the methods of distributing the money earnt from the matches in the said competitions.

You make it sound as if regulators price everything. In fact there are very few commodities that are have price regulation.

Fact; not all economies on this planet are market based economies so your assertion that supply and demand is basis of everything is wrong. What about regulation in market based economies?

As said by someone else, can you name one. Supply and demand is the driving force behind the pricing of virtually everything.


With regard to this cat system, if it were introduced, it would have to be identified at the start of the season with prices known at that time. I don't agree with the system and certainly don't agree with a system where prices are changed during the season just to sell out a fixture against mediocre opposition without any refund to STHs.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

My only opinion in the matter is that by introducing A and B categories you'll end up paying more for a category A game and the category B game stays at the previous price.

 

[kingcole]

Germany, Sweden, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam.

I take my hat off to you with North Korea, but the other suggestions are just laughable.

Germany - the biggest economy in Europe - purely market driven.
Sweden - An EU member with a diverse market driven economy
Cuba - Tried it the other way and now have the most rapidly growing market economy in the Caribbean
Vietnam - Although under communist rule, like China, Cuba and Vietnam, the country also is exploring options with property and commodities.

Forgetting the comic value of your last post, are you seriously suggesting the economic values of the likes of the countries (with the exception of your bizare including of Germany) are paths you would like to follow?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

You make it sound as if regulators price everything. In fact there are very few commodities that are have price regulation.



As said by someone else, can you name one. Supply and demand is the driving force behind the pricing of virtually everything.


With regard to this cat system, if it were introduced, it would have to be identified at the start of the season with prices known at that time. I don't agree with the system and certainly don't agree with a system where prices are changed during the season just to sell out a fixture against mediocre opposition without any refund to STHs.

My intention was not to make out the regulators set the price of everything but was to show that even in our market based ecomony supply and demand is not "the basis of everything" as kingcole suggested.

Germany, Sweden, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam are examples of economies that are not solely market based.

Hopefully the Albion will never introduce this type of category system where matches have price differences depending on what opposition you play.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

I take my hat off to you with North Korea, but the other suggestions are just laughable.

Germany - the biggest economy in Europe - purely market driven.
Sweden - An EU member with a diverse market driven economy
Cuba - Tried it the other way and now have the most rapidly growing market economy in the Caribbean
Vietnam - Although under communist rule, like China, Cuba and Vietnam, the country also is exploring options with property and commodities.

Forgetting the comic value of your last post, are you seriously suggesting the economic values of the likes of the countries (with the exception of your bizare including of Germany) are paths you would like to follow?

I'd love the UK to follow Sweden's economic model.

Germany - Germany has a social market economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany#Economy

Sweden - Sweden is an export-oriented mixed economy. Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cuba - The Cuban state adheres to socialist principles in organizing its largely state-controlled planned economy. Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnam - In 1986, the Sixth Party Congress of Vietnam introduced free market economic reforms as part of the Đổi Mới reform program, resulting in a socialist-oriented market economy. Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kingcole]

I'd love the UK to follow Sweden's economic model.

Germany - Germany has a social market economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany#Economy

Sweden - Sweden is an export-oriented mixed economy. Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cuba - The Cuban state adheres to socialist principles in organizing its largely state-controlled planned economy. Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnam - In 1986, the Sixth Party Congress of Vietnam introduced free market economic reforms as part of the Đổi Mới reform program, resulting in a socialist-oriented market economy. Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, you do agree, these are all market economies, but with other words before or after, like social, export orientated etc.....

My challenge was for you to name one that WAS NOT a market economy !

And seriously, I did not think of North Korea, but for the time being we can safely say it isn't. I hope for the people of North Korea that one day soon it is.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Fortunately, a market economy runs the world in which we live, so I stick by the fact it's everything.

A market economy doesn't run the world, in the world we have a set of different types of economic systems that are linked via trade organisations and treaties.

So, you do agree, these are all market economies, but with other words before or after, like social, export orientated etc.....

My challenge was for you to name one that WAS NOT a market economy !

And seriously, I did not think of North Korea, but for the time being we can safely say it isn't. I hope for the people of North Korea that one day soon it is.

No I don't agree with you that these are all market economies, here are some explanations of the economies of the countries I have mentioned including our own.

United Kingdom - Market economy: Market economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Germany- Social market economy: Social market economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sweden - Mixed economy: Mixed economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vietnam - Socialist-oriented market economy: Socialist-oriented market economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cuba - Planned economy: Planned economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hope the people of North Korea achieve democracy first, then they can decide on what economic system to choose.

 

[Birdie Boy]

No they weren't, that's why everyone's been ranting and raving for weeks. The price of all match-by-match tickets has gone up by £4 per match, £2 of which is for travel. Season tickets have gone up by £2 per match.

No they didn't. I have my renewal letter in front of me, they froze season ticket prices, they then added a trasport levy of £30, this equates to £1.30 per game. However, as I paid £30 for my transport vouchers last season, my season ticket has not changed at all! Unfortunately not everybody followed my lead of purchasing the transport tickets but that is for another thread!

 

[Captain Sensible]

The op is correct. A very good idea indeed. My only worry is it could have the reverse affect too and the prices go up even higher than now for CAT A matches. Need to see how sales go first.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I don't think categorisation in any league competition is fair to be honest, all it does is exploit home and away football fans and should be banned.

This is what the FSF thought about it all a few years back:

The Football Supporters' Federation - Away ticket price campaign

The FSF might have a bit more luck if they were a little more realistic:

The FSF want to deliver a clear message to club chairmen. We want a fairer deal for football fans through a fairer pricing structure which will make football more affordable for all. We want to see action by the football authorities to limit ticket prices to no more than £15 for adult away fans in the Premier League, to freeze prices for home fans, reducing prices in the cheaper categories and redistributing the facility fee for televised games by subsidising ticket prices for these matches.

 

[Notters]

No they didn't. I have my renewal letter in front of me, they froze season ticket prices, they then added a trasport levy of £30, this equates to £1.30 per game. However, as I paid £30 for my transport vouchers last season, my season ticket has not changed at all! Unfortunately not everybody followed my lead of purchasing the transport tickets but that is for another thread!

Fair enough, the key point is that season ticket prices didn't go up, other tickets did.