Carvalhal got it right

[Triggaaar]

Sorry, so are you saying we should have rested our entire first XI at Middlesbrough?

No, he's saying there should be a break between the last game and the playoffs. I think he's right.

How you can say someone got it right when they had a lead based on the opponents losing four players to injury and then were struggling in the second leg before a clear foul got them back in the game is beyond me.

Yes his title was a bit misleading, but I thought the general message was right. I expect we wouldn't have lost all those players if the playoffs were a bit later.

I've not seen the foul for their goal discussed here, and I've not seen it on TV. Is there a consensus that it was a foul?

 

[Finchley Seagull]

No, he's saying there should be a break between the last game and the playoffs. I think he's right.

Yes his title was a bit misleading, but I thought the general message was right. I expect we wouldn't have lost all those players if the playoffs were a bit later.

I've not seen the foul for their goal discussed here, and I've not seen it on TV. Is there a consensus that it was a foul?

You could see it clearly on the replay at the ground last night and, if you watch the highlights, it is a blatant foul by Hooper on Dunk as he looks to head the ball away.

 

[Triggaaar]

Didn't Derby rest 10 players for the last league game so they would be fresh for the play offs? I thought I read that somewhere. If they did how did that work out?

They managed to play their first playoff game without a single injury.

 

[Turkey]

If Sheff Wed go up they will come straight back down - they are by far the least prepared of all four play-off teams for the PL.

Irrelevant, this thread is making us look like really bitter, sore losers.

 

[Triggaaar]

You could see it clearly on the replay at the ground last night and, if you watch the highlights, it is a blatant foul by Hooper on Dunk as he looks to head the ball away.

I thought it was when watching it live, but I'd like to hear what others think having seen it on TV, and what the commentators / pundits thought.

 

[LamieRobertson]

No, he's saying there should be a break between the last game and the playoffs. I think he's right.

Yes his title was a bit misleading, but I thought the general message was right. I expect we wouldn't have lost all those players if the playoffs were a bit later.

I've not seen the foul for their goal discussed here, and I've not seen it on TV. Is there a consensus that it was a foul?

Have a look at the sky highlights thread.....commentator thought it was....and its obvious

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I thought it was when watching it live, but I'd like to hear what others think having seen it on TV, and what the commentators / pundits thought.

Apparently, Sky said it was a foul although I watched highlights with no volume. Think we have genuine reason to feel we've not had the luck/decisions go for us recently with Stephens' red card, the injuries at Hillsborough and Wednesday's goal last night. I have no issue with the play offs. We knew the rules at the start of the season but to lose to a team 15 points below us having had four injuries in one match and a dodgy goal yesterday is annoying.

 

[martin tyler]

Don't think you can say he got it right. It is just the way it fell this year another year they could have been fighting to the final day and we could have known we would finish 3rd a week earlier and rested players. We went to the final months knocking on the door of the top 2, clawed back a massive gap on Boro and went went hell for leather to get in the top 2. We missed out by 2 goals which in itself was pretty remarkable considering the GD a month or so earlier. In contrast Sheffield Wednesday had a free week basically to play some fringe players and had a good rest up. Thats just the way it goes. I don't regret the club going for it over the final few weeks and it made for one of the most exciting finishes to a season ever. We deserved to go up but football is a cruel game at times and anything can happen.
I'm sure plenty of people are a little down this morning, but personally I am over it. Whoever goes up so be it. We go again next year and we are in a good place. Best chairman ever, great manager, great players who I think want to stay here and finish the job and last night showed great fans when we put our minds to it. If its anything like this year I can not wait. Onwards and upwards

On Carvahal I would add he was pretty humble last night and acknowledged maybe we deserved to be promoted and we gave them a hell of a fright. Seems a decent manager himself.

 

[Marshy]

This thread should be re-named Carvalhal got lucky !

Everything went against us in the final few weeks of the regular season and during the 2 matches

Thats football for you. Our turn will come soon enough.

 

[martin tyler]

I thought it was when watching it live, but I'd like to hear what others think having seen it on TV, and what the commentators / pundits thought.

Sky commentators went from thinking it was to saying it defiantly was when watching on replay. It looked pretty blatant to be fair having just watched it again literally a palm off on dunks shoulder when he is in mid flight. Life's a bitch sometimes but there you go.

 

[Triggaaar]

Have a look at the sky highlights thread

Can't be bothered, I'll take your word for it. I thought it was when I saw it anyway. If only the linesman was watching the game

 

[Springal]

There's no luck in having the amount of shots we had and only scoring 1 goal !

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I know you have a point, and the real injustice here was the FA not overturning the red. It's unforgivable, that organisation is a disgrace. It still punishes the team that's fighting for top two, but they should be able to avoid 'real' red cards.

Not forgetting that Stephens is still under suspension for the first game of next season.

 

[perseus]

Wednesday are the most arrogats bucnh iof fans I've come across. Not sure why.

CC nearly caught a cold (should have) in the first half by the believing their own hype of how good they are.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lense]

It's so obvious the right thing to go is make the play-off semis a one-leg affair with the home sides being the ones that finish 3rd and 4th.

The cards could not have fallen any better for Sheff Wed than to have a dead rubber vs Wolves where they could give their best players 10 days rest and then have a home match vs. deflated Albion coming off the back of only 6 days' rest and a red card after our arm wrestle vs Boro.

Had the semi been a one-leg affair we would have seen last night's atmosphere plus another 10-15% on top - i.e. a guaranteed winner takes all sell-out on a Saturday, rather than 3,000 missing on a worknight after a deflating loss three days earlier.

This..definitely this! Keeps a lot of the elements that make the play-off a good thing. The games might be particularly cagey, but no more than the 1st legs typically are. Like this idea.
I did hear another approach that had 3rd playing 4th for straight route to final. Defeated team would then play winners of 5th/6th play-off, thereby getting second bite of the cherry. Therefore the lower placed teams would have to negotiate two games, whilst the higher placed teams get two chances as a reward for finishing higher..

 

[owlsonlineadmin]

To be fair to Carvalhal after the final whistle he looked a very relieved man, and spoke to Hughton. Best of luck for next season regardless of how we get on at Wembley. You certainly cranked up the noise last night, best I've heard in my four trips to the AMEX.

 

[Triggaaar]

Not forgetting that Stephens is still under suspension for the first game of next season.

I haven't forgotten. I've had a vision of me running past stewards to tell Chris before he fields an illegible player

 

[symyjym]

To be fair to Carvalhal after the final whistle he looked a very relieved man, and spoke to Hughton. Best of luck for next season regardless of how we get on at Wembley. You certainly cranked up the noise last night, best I've heard in my four trips to the AMEX.

Yep, he was certainly humbled by our performance and paid Hughton huge respect afterwards, so fair play to him.

I thoroughly enjoyed the game from star to finish despite the result. What was it like watching from the Shef W POV?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Sky commentators went from thinking it was to saying it defiantly was when watching on replay. It looked pretty blatant to be fair having just watched it again literally a palm off on dunks shoulder when he is in mid flight. Life's a bitch sometimes but there you go.

Knockaert's free kick somehow doesn't go in and Walace's cross does.. yep that sums up our luck perfectly

 

[Baldseagull]

I have a new theory, that if luck does not even itself out across a season, it will even out across two seasons. Fingers crossed.