[Albion] Carragher on how Albion figured out and blunted Man U diamond, with video

[Zeberdi]

Jamie Carragher unpicks Brighton’s change of tactics against Man U
- it not only highlights how important Steele’s footwork was in executing RDZ’s response to Man U’s shape in the opening 17 minutes or so but also how RDZ is so adept at tweaking his own game plan from the sidelines when needed:

Jamie Carragher: How 'out-of-this-world' Brighton figured out Man Utd thanks to Roberto De Zerbi's tactical switch

Jamie Carragher on Brighton: The football that we are seeing from Brighton right now is out of this world. I think we are watching one of the best teams in the Premier League and certainly one of the best managers.

www.skysports.com

”I think we are watching one of the best teams in the Premier League and certainly one of the best managers."

 

[bardo]

Jamie Carragher: How 'out-of-this-world' Brighton figured out Man Utd thanks to Roberto De Zerbi's tactical switch

Jamie Carragher on Brighton: The football that we are seeing from Brighton right now is out of this world. I think we are watching one of the best teams in the Premier League and certainly one of the best managers.

www.skysports.com

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Every where I look it seems people are talking about us, all a bit surreal.
think it's safe to say we are no longer under the radar.

 

[Mustafa II]

Jamie Carragher has surprised me a lot here. I guess I don't see him do this enough.

Clearly knows his football tactics, and his summary was very well articulated. I've learnt a lot.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Every where I look it seems people are talking about us, all a bit surreal.
think it's safe to say we are no longer under the radar.

Imagine being a Palace fan and desperately trying to avoid the coverage!

I know it’s utterly pathetic but if Palace win and it’s on MOTD, I turn the TV off for their highlights. I won’t read or listen to any ‘good news’ stories about Palace either. I’d be absolutely ****ed if the tables were turned, I’d not be able to consume almost any media! We’re literally everywhere. The media are covering us like we are a real top six!

 

[golddene]

Imagine being a Palace fan and desperately trying to avoid the coverage!

I know it’s utterly pathetic but if Palace win and it’s on MOTD, I turn the TV off for their highlights. I won’t read or listen to any ‘good news’ stories about Palace either. I’d be absolutely ****ed if the tables were turned, I’d not be able to consume almost any media! We’re literally everywhere. The media are covering us like we are a real top six!

Are you sure you are not me !

 

[Questions]

Jamie Carragher has surprised me a lot here. I guess I don't see him do this enough.

Clearly knows his football tactics, and his summary was very well articulated. I've learnt a lot.

If they could do one in English

 

[raymondo]

Jamie Carragher unpicks Brighton’s change of tactics against Man U
- it not only highlights how important Steele’s footwork was in executing RDZ’s response to Man U’s shape in the opening 17 minutes or so but also how RDZ is so adept at tweaking his own game plan from the sidelines when needed:

Jamie Carragher: How 'out-of-this-world' Brighton figured out Man Utd thanks to Roberto De Zerbi's tactical switch

Jamie Carragher on Brighton: The football that we are seeing from Brighton right now is out of this world. I think we are watching one of the best teams in the Premier League and certainly one of the best managers.

www.skysports.com

”I think we are watching one of the best teams in the Premier League and certainly one of the best managers."

Yeah, that was good. I always enjoy listening to Frank too.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Quality analysis. Especially enjoyed the part where they showed RDZ talking to Dunky.

This also highlights healthy dynamic. The manager doesn't need to get all his players around to convey a message. If he speaks to his captain, his captain will sort it.

 

[seagullwedgee]

It’s good analysis, but it’s not massively detailed. There were many other examples to show, if he had time. I didn’t go, but I did watch the whole match re-run on Sky Game of the Day. One thing that really fascinated me, very small, but very noticeable. At the start of the second half, and only for about 5 to 7 minutes or so, Veltman positioned himself much higher up as an inside right true midfielder, with Adingra sitting much lower ready to cover the right back area if exposed. At the same time, Welbeck dropped into an 8 or 10 position (which of course he had already done several times in the first half). This was a very deliberate statement from RDZ to say “if you’re thinking of trying that diamond thing again this half, don’t bother, we’ve seen it, we’re flooding that area so you can’t achieve overload, so try something else”. It was very deliberate. On at least 3 occasions Veltman looked across at RDZ, and waggled the thumb on his right hand as if to say “is about here alright” and “is the job done yet, shall I revert?” Tiny examples aplenty in that 90 minutes of the absolute majesty of RDZs thinking and execution dominance.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Listening to the Monday Night Club this morning on the train, Chris Sutton was very confident that we will be found out. He cited West Ham's victory as the blueprint for not engaging and picking us off. As Chappers pointed out, teams have had a year to work us out and we rarely do get 'found out'. Versus West Ham we had something like 80% possession and a large number of shots on target. I'd say that it takes a degree of luck and a LOT of concentration and energy to make this work against us.

As has been mentioned above, there are many levels to De Zerbi's tactical approach, it's not just 'this is how we play' irrespective of the opposition and how the game is developing. I'm confident that we have various ways to deal with teams that don't press and wait, especially as we have so much pace available.

 

[Wozza]

Jamie Carragher has surprised me a lot here.

Perhaps aided by researchers? Does he talk tactics during matches? At HT?

Or maybe he just read this? https://theathletic.com/4868384/2023/09/17/ten-hag-united-pressing/

/cynic

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Gone are the days where managers and players hang on until half-time ‘to change things’. If a manager has players with a good footballing brain and the right attitude you can make changes on the hoof. Providing of course that he has drilled them for every eventuality during training.

 

[Bridcutt]

Listening to the Monday Night Club this morning on the train, Chris Sutton was very confident that we will be found out. He cited West Ham's victory as the blueprint for not engaging and picking us off. As Chappers pointed out, teams have had a year to work us out and we rarely do get 'found out'. Versus West Ham we had something like 80% possession and a large number of shots on target. I'd say that it takes a degree of luck and a LOT of concentration and energy to make this work against us.

As has been mentioned above, there are many levels to De Zerbi's tactical approach, it's not just 'this is how we play' irrespective of the opposition and how the game is developing. I'm confident that we have various ways to deal with teams that don't press and wait, especially as we have so much pace available.

The difficulty will be when we go a goal down early to counter attacking teams and then they pack their half. That's how the Everton game started as they scored within 2 minutes I think and West Ham scored first too.

 

[East Staffs Gull]

I think that we have a style of play that gives us an advantage over virtually all of our opponents in terms of controlling games, maintaining possession, creating overloads, etc. It’s obviously not infallible and still requires us to take our chances and to defend well. Personally, I thought that our general performances against West Ham and Newcastle were both pretty similar, but the outcomes were quite different.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Jamie Carragher has surprised me a lot here. I guess I don't see him do this enough.

Clearly knows his football tactics, and his summary was very well articulated. I've learnt a lot.

He was very well coached by the bods behind the scenes. He put it across very well but all of that would have been handed to him to present.

What it did highlight is when we're just watching the game and most around me we're getting a tad worried given Utd's start to the game. RDZ was very quickly working the system change, which the players are so well versed, trust and believe in the system. 19 minutes in and we take control of the game.

This shows that RDZ has the rare talent of being able to get full buy in from his players but not just main stays but the whole squad. They can all slot into the team in a seamless way. The fact we changed 6 players for this game proves this.

To counter our tactics must be so hard and Thomas Frank alluded to this. Incidentally I really like listening to him he too is a very clever coach.

To replace RDZ, hopefully in many years time, will be so hard. It's not the replicating of his style of play it's his vision during the game and ability to tweek the tactics that makes him successful. Potter was often lauded for his changes of formation during the game, RDZ doesn't see formations as such he sees positioning during phases of play. The only thing given his near perfection in the phases of play why does it disappear when we get a corner or freekick in a dangerous area? It often looks like we haven't got a clue

 

[swindonseagull]

I don’t think we are under the radar anymore!!!

 

[el punal]

Listening to the Monday Night Club this morning on the train, Chris Sutton was very confident that we will be found out. He cited West Ham's victory as the blueprint for not engaging and picking us off. As Chappers pointed out, teams have had a year to work us out and we rarely do get 'found out'. Versus West Ham we had something like 80% possession and a large number of shots on target. I'd say that it takes a degree of luck and a LOT of concentration and energy to make this work against us.

As has been mentioned above, there are many levels to De Zerbi's tactical approach, it's not just 'this is how we play' irrespective of the opposition and how the game is developing. I'm confident that we have various ways to deal with teams that don't press and wait, especially as we have so much pace available.

Every good team in a season has an off day. Last season it was the Everton 5-1 debacle. So far, this term, it was West Ham at home. Even then we didn’t play badly, it was three glaring individual defensive errors capitalised on by three opportunistic well taken goals. A definite wake up call to which we have responded well.

 

[Withdean11]

We actually changed things much earlier than the first goal. Around 7 or 8 minutes in i noticed JPVH and Dunk split much wider. It was probably the goal that allowed RDZ to finally explain it in more detail to Dunk.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Listening to the Monday Night Club this morning on the train, Chris Sutton was very confident that we will be found out. He cited West Ham's victory as the blueprint for not engaging and picking us off. As Chappers pointed out, teams have had a year to work us out and we rarely do get 'found out'. Versus West Ham we had something like 80% possession and a large number of shots on target. I'd say that it takes a degree of luck and a LOT of concentration and energy to make this work against us.

As has been mentioned above, there are many levels to De Zerbi's tactical approach, it's not just 'this is how we play' irrespective of the opposition and how the game is developing. I'm confident that we have various ways to deal with teams that don't press and wait, especially as we have so much pace available.

Agree, it's also about drawing the opposition in thinking we'll do what we've done before, then suckerpunch them with the RDZ southpaw.