[Finance] Career criminals scoop £4m Lotto win but are refused payout because

[Stat Brother]

bosses think it was bought with ‘stolen bank card’.

Sorry I know it's The Sun but sometimes it's worth putting that to one side, for the story.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8941567/career-criminals-denied-lotto-win-stolen-debit-card/


If this is true, and it certainly seems that Mark & Jon-Ross are unlikely to outsmart the Lotto investigators.
I do hope, but seriously doubt, the £4,000,000 is reunited with the card from which it was purchased.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

bosses think it was bought with ‘stolen bank card’.

Sorry I know it's The Sun but sometimes it's worth putting that to one side, for the story.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8941567/career-criminals-denied-lotto-win-stolen-debit-card/


If this is true, and it certainly seems that Mark & Jon-Ross are unlikely to outsmart the Lotto investigators.
I do hope, but seriously doubt, the £4,000,000 is reunited with the card from which it was purchased.

Oh Pleeeaaassee let Lotto do the decent thing and give the £4 mill to the poor sod whose card they stole.

That would be the perfect response...but when did anyone do the right thing in this shithouse country recently?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Oh Pleeeaaassee let Lotto do the decent thing and give the £4 mill to the poor sod whose card they stole.

That would be the perfect response...but when did anyone do the right thing in this shithouse country recently?

This.


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[Goldstone1976]

Oh Pleeeaaassee let Lotto do the decent thing and give the £4 mill to the poor sod whose card they stole.

That would be the perfect response...but when did anyone do the right thing in this shithouse country recently?

This.

Did I tell you that I’ve had my card stolen? I can prove it was this card - it had 16 numbers written right across the middle of it.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

This.

Did I tell you that I’ve had my card stolen? I can prove it was this card - it had 16 numbers written right across the middle of it.

If I swear in court that I saw these two bellends pinch your card can I have a holiday and a car?

 

[The Clamp]

Oh Pleeeaaassee let Lotto do the decent thing and give the £4 mill to the poor sod whose card they stole.

That would be the perfect response...but when did anyone do the right thing in this shithouse country recently?

Yep

 

[gazingdown]

Just pay the winnings to the card account.

 

[marlowe]

The report said they bought the winning ticket in Waitrose. Looking at them I'm surprised that suspicions weren't first alerted at the point of sale as they certainly don't fit any Waitrose customer profile. Only two possible reasons for them being in Waitrose, they were either on the rob or shopping on someone else's stolen card.

 

[essbee1]

Pay the 4mill. to righful owner and give those two ********** a jail sentence.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

bosses think it was bought with ‘stolen bank card’.

I do hope, but seriously doubt, the £4,000,000 is reunited with the card from which it was purchased.

Oh Pleeeaaassee let Lotto do the decent thing and give the £4 mill to the poor sod whose card they stole.

This.

This.

Yep

Just pay the winnings to the card account.

Pay the 4mill. to righful owner .

I was about to contradict this viewpoint, on the grounds that as the card owner would have almost certainly reported it stolen and recovered any fraudulent spending, the logical conclusion of your suggestion is that the money would be paid to the credit card company.

Then I read it properly and see it was a DEBIT card, so it almost certainly WAS the card owner's money used to buy the ticket.

So, yes, I'm IN.

 

[Jackthelad]

The report said they bought the winning ticket in Waitrose. Looking at them I'm surprised that suspicions weren't first alerted at the point of sale as they certainly don't fit any Waitrose customer profile. Only two possible reasons for them being in Waitrose, they were either on the rob or shopping on someone else's stolen card.

Scumbags shop everywhere, there is no profile for a Waitrose customer or Morrisons customer.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Oh and

 

[Goldstone1976]

"Asked whose plastic it was, claimants Mark Goodram and Jon-Ross Watson named a mystery friend called “John” — but could not give his surname, address or phone number....and said he had disappeared “up North”."

"Goodram — with 22 convictions for 45 criminal offences...is understood to have been released on police licence from jail just days before the win."

Sounds completely legit to me.

 

[Gwylan]

Scumbags shop everywhere, there is no profile for a Waitrose customer or Morrisons customer.

Oh, that's not true. In a previous life, I worked as a number cruncher for a supermarket chain and one of the things that we did was identify who was likely to shop at a particular outlet. This was in the early days of analytics, so the methods we used were very crude - they're a lot more sophisticated these days.

Back to the subject in question: I'm not sure how Camelot knows it was bought with a debit card but doesn't know the number of the card, that's not made clear in the story

 

[Gwylan]

"Asked whose plastic it was, claimants Mark Goodram and Jon-Ross Watson named a mystery friend called “John” — but could not give his surname, address or phone number....and said he had disappeared “up North”."

Perhaps it was the same person that was driving Katie Price's car when it crashed

 

[Goldstone1976]

Back to the subject in question: I'm not sure how Camelot knows it was bought with a debit card but doesn't know the number of the card, that's not made clear in the story

I would have thought that GDPR would make such a scenario the most likely - no?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Oh, that's not true. In a previous life, I worked as a number cruncher for a supermarket chain and one of the things that we did was identify who was likely to shop at a particular outlet. This was in the early days of analytics, so the methods we used were very crude - they're a lot more sophisticated these days.

Back to the subject in question: I'm not sure how Camelot knows it was bought with a debit card but doesn't know the number of the card, that's not made clear in the story

I suspect they know the number and details of the card, but are keeping that for when our two friends eventually find a 'mate' with a bank account who will claim it was their card that was used

 

[dazzer6666]

How are they paying for all that booze if they were 'down to their loose change' and Camelot haven't paid out ?

Anyway, really, really hope they get **** all apart from a jail sentence, and the prize goes to the cardholder. ****s.

 

[The Clamp]

4m to legit cardholder
These two Herberts to prison.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

How are they paying for all that booze if they were 'down to their loose change' and Camelot haven't paid out ?

Using their mate John's bank card?