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Cardiff City in the shit...
- Thread starter Springal
- Start date
I pretty sure they were represented at Fans United. Regardless, clubs being screwed over by dodgy owners should be everyone's concern just as long as the fans of said club are willing to fight ( unlike Pompey ).
What's amazing, so often in these stories, is how the hero turns out to be a villain. Sam Hamman was absolutely idolised by Cardiff fans not so long ago.
It's another example as to why, as a group of supporters, we should never stop asking questions about those who have custody of our club. It's not being cynical, distrusting or disrespectful to make sure that the Albion is being looked after properly.
It's another example as to why, as a group of supporters, we should never stop asking questions about those who have custody of our club. It's not being cynical, distrusting or disrespectful to make sure that the Albion is being looked after properly.
I feel very sorry for Cardiff Fans, I really hope all the money we are spending now isnt being spent on the gamble that we make the Premiership.
Reading the write up, makes me feel very uncomfortable and can only see more issues like this occuring in the next few years.
Reading the write up, makes me feel very uncomfortable and can only see more issues like this occuring in the next few years.
severnside gull
Well-known member
Don't expect that any of this will stop Cardiff from bidding big money for Craig Noone or anyone else they want - they are completely in last chance saloon now and will literally go for broke to get promotion this season without any thought for the consequence of failure. If they don't go up this year they will simply take a minor points penalty and start again debt free next year.
portsmouth ??
Surrey_Albion
New member
They should save their money by not going to home games and only going aware, a month of that the board would panic and listen to them
With £120m Bloom has spent, is the Premier League a must? You cannot recoup that sort of money in the Championship, that's for sure, no matter how many season tickets, pints and pies you sell. The money just isn't there. As Cardiff are finding out, they'd have to put their prices up to an astonishing level. TV money alone was worth £31m to each club in 2011, and will only be more with the new Sky deal, compare that to the £2.6m each team in the Championship gets.
It's a massive gamble, and one this guy seems to be taking to get them in the up. He needs to really.
MattBackHome
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 11,873
This + bells on
Except, like portsmouth, they won't be debt free, they'll still owe hamman and tam, so they'll screw over local businesses and other suppliers and then run up more debts as they are still saddled with an unsustainable debt they can't be rid of, even with multiple administrations (cf portsmouth again)
Thought I'd add: I'm anti-welsh and I think cardiff should play in their own league unless the welsh are prepared to accept wales is in no way a country and that while they did have a language once,the current welsh they speak is pretty much made up and they should stop it.
That said I would still heartily support any action they take and hope they have a viable future.
That said I would still heartily support any action they take and hope they have a viable future.
AMEXican Wave
AMEX Ruffian
- Sep 21, 2010
- 1,226
Looks like the owners have a masterplan to create an FC Malaysia(cardiff) in the Premier League, which they market and control TV rights to in Asia. I'm sure they'd really like to play home matches over there, but they'll have to settle for showpiece summer friendlies instead.
Superphil
Dismember
That makes for extremely depressing reading, the fans are being seriously screwed over. It's easy to say you don't give a shit about Cardiff (Palace or Pompey) but I'm sure we all know fans of at least one of those clubs, the fans do not bring this crap on themselves, this is done by woefully inept people running the clubs. Sadly the most woefully inept of them all in the game are the FA. What sort of an association does not monitor its members to ensure they all are viable, sustainable and sensible?
I can see Cardiff sliding down the leagues very quickly if a miracle does not happen in the next few months. The money will be pulled, the players will leave, but there seems to be no way of shifting that debt, it just gets bigger and bigger. Thank God we had the likes of DK, Derek Chapman and FBS amongst others at our darkest times to selflessly pump personal money into the Albion to keep our heads above water, and of course TB for his passion for the club. I hope we continue in a sustainable fashion, only spending money we have (includng what TB gives us).
Good luck to Cardiff fans, you're going to need it.
I can see Cardiff sliding down the leagues very quickly if a miracle does not happen in the next few months. The money will be pulled, the players will leave, but there seems to be no way of shifting that debt, it just gets bigger and bigger. Thank God we had the likes of DK, Derek Chapman and FBS amongst others at our darkest times to selflessly pump personal money into the Albion to keep our heads above water, and of course TB for his passion for the club. I hope we continue in a sustainable fashion, only spending money we have (includng what TB gives us).
Good luck to Cardiff fans, you're going to need it.
Gazwag
5 millionth post poster
How would 2 seasons in the welsh league sustain the club long enough for 1 match in the champions league qualifying rounds and besides they one match would be worth next to nothing.
thisistips
New member
I'm 100% with this sentiment. Although their fans can be larey (sp?), there would have been many many people sitting in that room, and more at home, feeling like we did. Someone who is not in front of them is taking away something very important to them. I have a horrible feeling that that this is not the darkest hour for Cardiff fans, especially if they don't make the top 2 - which they most likely will not. Blackburn too. It will be a miracle for them to return to the prem, I think they're most likely to go the way of Pompey.
What would you do with Wales then? Call it England?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
they are proper f***ed arent they?
but then, this Vincent Tan chap is proper wealthy so presumably he has the money and also the business nous for this silly rebrand. seems like the owner is trying to get into the Premiership on the cheap, upon which his red-shirted Cardiff Dragons will probably go down a storm.
but then, this Vincent Tan chap is proper wealthy so presumably he has the money and also the business nous for this silly rebrand. seems like the owner is trying to get into the Premiership on the cheap, upon which his red-shirted Cardiff Dragons will probably go down a storm.
Gritt23
New member
Hmm, just continuing this theme, is there anything in place to prevent an International version of MK Dons? While I think the owners are really just in to create debt owed to themselves, and will then bog off demanding to be paid (a la Pompey), if they were to invest in players to get them promoted, is there anything to stop them relocating the team to Malaysia, while retaining newly won Premiership status?
Gritt23
New member
As, relatively speaking, was Bill Archer!
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
harsh, cant compare him yet. it was just an observation that Tan does has the resources to follow through. this is questioned in some quarters, many of the other clubs in trouble have owners who dont appear to have the money they claim.