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[Hatterlovesbrighton]

ISIS is a result of the chaos we (the west) created in Iraq, formally they were a tiny group, that turned into Al Qaeda In Iraq, after the occupation of Iraq, but even Al Qaeda has disowned them.
NOBODY is justifying anything. Using ISIS as your example is a bit weird. They murder muslims as well. In LARGE numbers. Currently on a murder spree against Sunni tribes in Anbar. They are also in the middle of what is essentially a vicious civil war, in several areas, against the Syrian and Iraqi govts, and against other jihadist groups, and the Kurds, all civil wars turn barbaric.
Why would there be 'westernaphobia', if not for deeds done in the past?

Why would there be 'Islamophobia', if not for deeds done in the past?

 

[daveinprague]

Why would there be 'Islamophobia', if not for deeds done in the past?

Those deeds are very recent, but thats not the point. Im responding to a suggestion that 'westernaphobia' is greater than Islamaphobia. All ive said is, there will be 'westernaphobia' for a reason surely.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

ISIS is a result of the chaos we (the west) created in Iraq, formally they were a tiny group, that turned into Al Qaeda In Iraq, after the occupation of Iraq, but even Al Qaeda has disowned them.
NOBODY is justifying anything. Using ISIS as your example is a bit weird. They murder muslims as well. In LARGE numbers. Currently on a murder spree against Sunni tribes in Anbar. They are also in the middle of what is essentially a vicious civil war, in several areas, against the Syrian and Iraqi govts, and against other jihadist groups, and the Kurds, all civil wars turn barbaric.
Why would there be 'westernaphobia', if not for deeds done in the past?

It goes back a lot further than that. 1914 when the Ottoman Empire was being divided up. Osama Bin Laden referred to the 1914 carve up in 2001 when he claimed responsibility for 9/11.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/30/middle-east_0_n_5543710.html

 

[Brovion]

Islam is not a race di*k head

Who said it was?

EDIT: Ahh! Understand now, thought your comment was aimed at me.

Its not a 'place' its a war zone.

It IS still a 'place'! It is/was home to a lot of people.

 

[daveinprague]

Think he is referring to the op...

Come man.. you can hardly call an area involved in a massive, and bloody civil war to be considered a territory to compare with a stable western society. On any level.

 

[User removed 4]

It goes back a lot further than that. 1914 when the Ottoman Empire was being divided up. Osama Bin Laden referred to the 1914 carve up in 2001 when he claimed responsibility for 9/11.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/30/middle-east_0_n_5543710.html

That's a little bit complicated for Dave , he likes a quick sound bite where he usually reveals what a weapons grade imbecile he is.

 

[daveinprague]

Ah bushy joins to add to the thread again....oh wait...

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Country was a lot safer and nicer before Labour got in. They have left us with a lot of problems.

 

[daveinprague]

It goes back a lot further than that. 1914 when the Ottoman Empire was being divided up. Osama Bin Laden referred to the 1914 carve up in 2001 when he claimed responsibility for 9/11.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/30/middle-east_0_n_5543710.html

Yeah, ISIS have made a lot of dismantling the Sykes lines.
Wasnt it around the same time we found oil in Southern Iraq, and declared the area a British Protectorate, later to be Kuwait?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yeah, ISIS have made a lot of dismantling the Sykes lines.
Wasnt it around the same time we found oil in Southern Iraq, and declared the area a British Protectorate, later to be Kuwait?

Earlier, in 1908.

 

[BBassic]

Wow. As an attempt to justify the oppression in those societies that's on a par with saying the Holocaust was simply culturally appropriate behaviour for Nazis.

Godwin's Law invoked in the first ten posts?! That has to be a record.

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

Country was a lot safer and nicer before Labour got in. They have left us with a lot of problems.

Labour left a lot of problems but id say people feel safer on the streets now than when the ira were operating in mainland Britain in the 80's and 90's.

 

[daveinprague]

Earlier, in 1908.

Thought it was part of the WW1 deal... a lot of shit could have been avoided with a bit more sensitive cartography

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Labour left a lot of problems but id say people feel safer on the streets now than when the ira were operating in mainland Britain in the 80's and 90's.

I certainly don't feel safer. May be I'm getting old but feels like to me the severity of crimes back down here in Sussex are a lot worse than they used to be.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Labour left a lot of problems but id say people feel safer on the streets now than when the ira were operating in mainland Britain in the 80's and 90's.

Maybe if you went to some inner city areas you might retract that statement I know places in liverpool where people working in local convenience shops are behind bullet proof screens
regards
DR

 

[Brovion]

Godwin's Law invoked in the first ten posts?! That has to be a record.

Yeah, I was going to add some self-deprecatory comment myself, but I thought I'd let someone else do it!

 

[Nitram]

What a bizarre social experiment.
What was he expecting?

Probably the opposite that's why he was surprised at the end to have a bloody nose

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Thought it was part of the WW1 deal... a lot of shit could have been avoided with a bit more sensitive cartography

Persia was friendly to the west then until the Shah was toppled and it became Iran.

 

[BadFish]

Wow. As an attempt to justify the oppression in those societies that's on a par with saying the Holocaust was simply culturally appropriate behaviour for Nazis.

There is a huge difference between explaining something and justifying it. Often lost on NSC but a clear distinction that is relevant here.

If you choose to ignore the reasons for a problem then it will never be solved.

 

[BadFish]

Country was a lot safer and nicer before Labour got in. They have left us with a lot of problems.

Yep definitely no bombs going off under Thatcher's rule.