Such a shame that Bob has decided to completely tarnish his reputation with the club by acting like a massive dick. No way back now and if we get anything over £15m we would have done pretty well for an ex academy keeper who’s second choice and not prepared to put in the graft to improve so he is closer to what RDZ wants him to do.
[Albion] Can we talk about Sanchez ?
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Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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Could not have two more different characters on one hand you have Steele who sat as number 2 but worked to support successive number 1s whilst working hard to improve his game so when it it arose he could take his chance. Then we have Sanchez and his ego who broke into the first team got complacent and had his spot taken deservedly by the number 2 and rather than knuckle down and improve on areas RDZ wants him to sulks around like an entitled schoolboy and stinks the place out.
RDZ pretty clear how he feels about it and don’t imagine the rest of the squad will be happy with it either especially the senior pros who no doubt have tried to have a word too. Remember lallana was very short when asked about trossard leaving when he sulked for a move.
RDZ pretty clear how he feels about it and don’t imagine the rest of the squad will be happy with it either especially the senior pros who no doubt have tried to have a word too. Remember lallana was very short when asked about trossard leaving when he sulked for a move.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
You don't normally show a manager you have the right size balls by refusing to turn up...
- Oct 20, 2022
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Firstly- you have a right to express a POV as I do so respect your right to hold a different view to mine - but that’s all it is - POVs based on rumours, hearsay and obscure remarks from the manager - none of us are in complete possession of the facts.
Secondly - yes, Sanchez is not only a professional footballer but a talented, international player that still has potential to improve and needs to play football - that’s why it’s a very difficult situation - for all concerned - especially for RDZ who has to try and keep top players happy when every single one of them wants to play every week.
Thirdly - what ‘tools’ ? - Sitting on the bench for the rest of the season doing nothing? Sanchez for all intents and purposes has been replaced by Steele (all respect to Steele) - he has not dropped any tools - he hasn’t been using any, that’s the point.
Finally, you don’t know why Sanchez has requested not to be named in the squad for Newcastle - none of us do - but you can’t blame a player who wants to take time out from a squad that clearly has no room for him at the present time and question whether he wants to stay with the club or not.
All these posts suggesting we’ll get next to nothing when he goes is nonsense as it people saying Sanchez has to adapt his natural style of play to suit the coach or fcuk off as if that’s an ultimatum up to us to impose- he doesn’t have to do that, he can find a club that suits his style better and probably will with great ease in the summer window, the same way we have a GK in Steele that suits De Zerbi’s style of football better until he too is replaced with a better one.
Or, indeed, failing to turn up on time......
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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This is hypothetical and empathetic in the extreme BUT if I'd grown up seeing Spain win a World Cup and a couple of Euros, then get picked to play for them, then get a go in the FA cup semi and have a good game, then find myself on the bench to a journeyman* keeper who recently didn't have a good game .... I'd have the right hump, seething and probably not be in the right frame of mind.
*I like Steele
And I like Sanchez.
looks very much like he's off and I hope he has a cracking career.
*I like Steele
And I like Sanchez.
looks very much like he's off and I hope he has a cracking career.
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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If this is simply just a strop at being dropped then that will really tarnish his reputation for buying clubs. He's not such a good keeper that he'd be a guaranteed first choice no matter where he signed, he may well end up as reserve keeper at times, and other clubs now might think he's just not worth the hassle.
What games has he played for Spain ?
15 mins in a World Cup qualifier after they’d qualified
45minutes of a friendly.
Let’s have it right, great he is in the squads but the scenario you are saying is even more small minded of him
I feel a bit sorry for Sanchez tbh. I know this is going massively against the grain but I felt that when he dropped him initially for Steele, RDZ made a bit too much of Steele being his best choice and the most competent playing out etc. it may have been said to boost Steele but it seemed largely at the expense of Sanchez and publicly slating a keeper who hadn’t really done much wrong was harsh.
Sanchez comes in against Man U in the semi-final and plays well, gets dropped back to the bench. He watches Steele drop the kind of performance he did at Everton and yet still doesn’t get back in? At that point he must be seeing that there is no pathway back to the first team for him.
Players on the bench need to see that there is a pathway into the first team for them or they become disheartened and usually leave. I think this is what’s happened here, Sanchez can’t get back in either by playing well or by Steele playing badly. I don’t think he’s gone about it the right way by throwing a strop, I can understand his being frustrated though.
Sanchez comes in against Man U in the semi-final and plays well, gets dropped back to the bench. He watches Steele drop the kind of performance he did at Everton and yet still doesn’t get back in? At that point he must be seeing that there is no pathway back to the first team for him.
Players on the bench need to see that there is a pathway into the first team for them or they become disheartened and usually leave. I think this is what’s happened here, Sanchez can’t get back in either by playing well or by Steele playing badly. I don’t think he’s gone about it the right way by throwing a strop, I can understand his being frustrated though.
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What sort of advice do these guys get? It beggars belief. Probably worse than any of the previous situations like Cucurella & Trossard. Surely an agent should say to him “do your job, it’s just a couple more weeks and we’ll get you a move in the summer”. Instead, he tarnishes his own reputation and looks an absolute bellend.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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Given my limited maths that's 2 caps for one of the best international sides in the world.
I did state that my comments were from a position of possible extreme empathy and that empathy also extends to those in the BURN THE TRAITOR camp as well, if that makes you feel any better.
X
- Oct 20, 2022
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Yeah, not a happy experience I’m sure.
If Silva and Haaland put 6 past us on 24th, I hope the same people knocking Sanchez now for getting pissed off he‘s been replaced and saying he deserved it for ‘his mistakes’, won’t afterwards be knocking RDZ for playing Steele instead of Sanchez
(of course they will though because this is NSC
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
He wouldn’t be doing nothing, he’d be preparing to play, supporting Steele, being ready if Steele were to get injured or sent off.
As it is, he leaves us weakened if something does happen to Steele, and frankly heresay or not, at this stage of the season especially, it’s bang out of order.
Robinjakarta
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Nice job!
Robinjakarta
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No.
Bye, Bobby. Just piss off, and we'll take as much money as we can get. Sorry, this looks like the height of unprofessionalism. What if Steele got injured and we needed Sánchez FFS?
GallodiMare
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- Apr 14, 2023
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It's not even that he can't play with his feet. It's rather that he slipped that ball through his hands. How many points did it cost us? Not even in the fourth division do you see a goalkeeper make a mistake like that. For RDZ mentality h'is definitely out.
Sorry but f*** him, he’s paid to do a job for the team and is refusing to do so. Donate his wages to charity. C**t
- Oct 20, 2022
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I don’t buy that tbh - we are in the slightly unusual position (for a squad our size) of having two great PL seasoned GKs in the squad, so that’s a luxury not an entitlement - the situation was never going to be sustainable in terms of keeping them both happy indefinitely. GKs cant be rotated into different positions like the other members of the squad, nor do they sustain injuries or suffer fatigue at the same level as other players so unless they are rotated in to play, the options are very much more limited. In the unlikely event something happens to Steele, before the season’s out, Sanchez would step in to finish out the remaining matches, I have no reason at this stage to doubt that.
We are far more weakened by loosing March and Veltman (requiring Gross or Caceido to vacate their imo crucial MF roles to play at the back) than having a very low possibility of having to finish a game with a debut sub GK.
All I know, if I were the team leader or supervisor in my place of work and had been for over a year, was the employee of the month several times, then my boss suddenly decided that he would replace me with a junior staff member that previously I was the role model to, I be pi&&ed frankly. I’d be even more pi&&ed, if my boss then told me, you are not loosing your job because in stead of doing your job, we want you to stay as an assistant to your replacement, training him to be better, cheer him on and help him further his career. Really? If my replacement needs my training and support why are you giving him my job in the first place? Mega bucks wouldn’t make me put up with that humiliation and certainly not if my nose was being rubbed in it in front of a 30,000 other members of staff. I’d bum off work for a few days and get my shite together and start looking for another job.
Having said that, it should be stressed that we literally don’t know what’s going on exactly or why Sanchez and RDZ decided Sanchez not travelling but staying at home would be better - for all we know RDZ could be ‘saving‘ Sanchez for the Citeh game … just saying
(and for the record, we will come under heavy bombardment from Citeh forwards because they are the better team across the whole field - they have the ability to carve through our defences GK will be crucial in whether we take away any points - sorry but I trust Sanchez the Stopper more than Steele the Distributor for this match
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sydney
tinky ****in winky
hmmmm.......bollox to him , how old is he ...?? grow the f*** up , life is full of disappointments...whats he on 30 40 k a week...? plank.
Dave the hatosaurus
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Now i am seeing from your words that you are clearly a very empathetic person and your first point i can absolutely see where you are coming from. However maybe if he had been minded to he could have spoken to the manager and coaches about how he could improve his game so he could work his way back into the team on merit. Saying he could not see a way back seems to me to be more the mindset of a person who either thinks he is better than everyone else or just cannot be arsed. On your last point i also can understand someone being frustrated in his position but if Steele had picked up an injury in the first half at Arsenal i firmly believe that Sanchez should have been on the bench and ready to step up not spitting out his dummy at home or wherever he was, he is being paid a lot of money to either play OR to be available to play if requested.
I love my club and reserve the right to feel offended when players are acting disrespectfully to those who pay them good money and those that travel around the country supporting them. We will probably never know the whole story behind this but from what RDZ has said it does appear to be his decision and i for one will be pleased to see him go. We need to have the team all pulling in the same direction, especially now.
For these reasons i am not sorry for him at all but i am not at all in any kind of "burn him" camp just annoyed at him causing disruption in the team.