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Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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fatboy said:
Why can't we play Hammond?

Maybe it is time to give Dean Cox a run in the first team. Or Jarrett.

Hammond should be in for Oatway in any case. Nicolas and Hammond have been our best central midfield pairing by a mile this season.

I guess the problem of any combination of Oatway, Hammond, Nicolas and Carpenter (pressuming that we are playing a 3 man midfield) is they are all very similar. Good grafters, but not often going to play that killer ball or something really special that players like Currie are capable of.
 




Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
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Uncle Buck said:
Knight this season has not been helped by the fact he has had no service as the game plan has been built around Virgo rather than Leon.

If you think Knights best position is on the wing, then I will refer to 27 goals last season when playing through the middle.

However the chances of playing to Knight's strengths now are zero if the midfield is going to consist of Carpenter, Nicolas and Oatway. A lot of good work will be done with this trio but very little flair there.

I refer you to how many goals Zamora scored in the equivilent divisions.

This league is much harder than last season. The defenders have a it of pace and easily knock Knight off the ball. Flair midfielders that you tlak of are as rare as rocking horse shit and would be harder to hold on to than a greesed eel.

Knight is not going to have such a midfielder in the Brighton team for a LONG time. Our best route are down the flanks where a bit of pace and a decent cross will get you a long way.

You mentioned that Knight wouldn;t get the service because the one person who could provide it has left. You then suggest that his service shoulf come through the middle? Are you suggesting that we should be playing Currie in the middle and not using his crossing?

I think you are so caught up in the doom and gloom you are losing touch with reality. Knight wasn't even starting games when Virgo was fit and available. Currie leaving is not going affect his ability to score goals one bit. What is will do is give Knight the chance to play the full 90mins a lot more. Albeit from the wing.

How can that be a bad thing?
 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Kev the Ape said:
Dan Harding will be gone next. This is all down to DK fault again :angry:. Where are the beautiful crosses going to come from? And the corners will be crap like last season. Thank you DK. :angry:

You really are a total tool aren't you?

You f***ing well should be thanking DK and the board for saving this club so that little twerps like you actually have a football club to moan about.

Now-do you know the financial situation of this club? Are you fully aware of just how critical Falmer is to the future of B&HAFC?

I give up....
 


Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
28,075
Lammy said:
I refer you to how many goals Zamora scored in the equivilent divisions.

This league is much harder than last season. The defenders have a it of pace and easily knock Knight off the ball. Flair midfielders that you tlak of are as rare as rocking horse shit and would be harder to hold on to than a greesed eel.

Knight is not going to have such a midfielder in the Brighton team for a LONG time. Our best route are down the flanks where a bit of pace and a decent cross will get you a long way.

You mentioned that Knight wouldn;t get the service because the one person who could provide it has left. You then suggest that his service shoulf come through the middle? Are you suggesting that we should be playing Currie in the middle and not using his crossing?

I think you are so caught up in the doom and gloom you are losing touch with reality. Knight wasn't even starting games when Virgo was fit and available. Currie leaving is not going affect his ability to score goals one bit. What is will do is give Knight the chance to play the full 90mins a lot more. Albeit from the wing.

How can that be a bad thing?

The last few games Currie was playing through the middle, or if you like a free role, picking the ball up from deep positions from wherever on the pitch and doing something with it. Not always with sucess, but on Saturday he was never afraid to have another go. We have nobody to do this now and to be honest we do not have a decent corner taker.

Knight, well you are basing he is a decent winger on 70 minutes against Burnley. I am basing the fact that he is a decent forward on the back of 50 odd games last season in that position and 27 goals.
 


Lammy

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dave the gaffer said:
Which is exactly what happened to Knight at Sheff Wed and he left them after telling Turner ( i think it was him) that he should be playing up front, not stuck out on the wing.

A forward line of a converted full back and a guy whose career was over two years ago does not exactly fill me full of confidence.

I think, and this is my personal opinion so no "you're talking out your arse" comments, yes, its obviously a great piece of business...to sign someone for nix and then sell him on 6 months later for 250k is great, but my concern is that Currie was the only player to take a decent corner, decent free kick and decent cross...

I have blind faith in DK..he obviously knows what he is doing and of course all this doesn't metter as Falmer is the bee and end all of everything at the moment. I am just happy to be here:rolleyes:

So you're saying that knight would rather be on the bench than play at right wing? If that is the case he can piss off! He's playing for Brighton not Real Madrid!

I agree that a 38 years old and a central defender is not the ideal strike partenership and I would love it if we were able to splash out on a couple of new players to take their place. The bottom line is though, we don't have any money and they are doing an alright job. All we need to do is last the season and stay up. We are not looking to set the world alight this season. The summer is the time to start looking to bring in freash faces. I believe (and this is my opinion) that we have enough quality in our squad to finish the job this season.

It's a sad fact that Falmer IS the be all and end all and YES you are talking out of your arse ;)
 




Lammy

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Uncle Buck said:
Knight, well you are basing he is a decent winger on 70 minutes against Burnley. I am basing the fact that he is a decent forward on the back of 50 odd games last season in that position and 27 goals.

I'm basing that on the fact that he has scored 1 goal in open play this season. He is too small to receive balls over the top. We have no one to play balls though the middle to his feet (I include Currie in that). He has pace and able to take players on. I've also seen him cross a ball on more than a few occasions.

Two professional football managers have also seen this and tried him out on the wing.
 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Kev the Ape said:
Where will the money go for Currie? and what about Harding if he goes.

Remember the Zamora ordeal the money didnt go to coppell it went to the falmer campaign. :angry:

Engage brain before posting....understand one thing here: Without Falmer this club dies. Spending money we don't have on players at this stage of the club's history will shorten its lifespan. Your choice mastermind......actually, thank goodness it isn't your choice.

:dunce:
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
oi Bwian..thats Child abuse...stop it!:lolol: :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,273
If we are planning to play Knight on the wing (where he plainly DOESN'T want to play) and Virgo / Claridge up front, with a midfield of Nicolas, Oatway and Carpenter then we will go down.

Why? Because we had a better attacking team 2 years ago and still went down.
 


The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
15,384
Worthing
Lammy said:
There is a lot of doom and gloom on this board today and understandably so.

However, I think Dick Knight and the Board have pulled another master stoke here. Coupled with the money we stand to make from the Spurs game we have just cleared a substantial amout of cash from the A&K target!!

We also have a good squad with great team spirit. The fact that Currie has gone will not dent this spirit one bit IMHO.

We have options in Knight, Jarrett and Jones to replace Currie down the wing. I actually think that is Knights best position. Henry likes to pick the ball up there and so I see no reason why Knight could not score a few from that position himself.

We have Virgo and Claridge up front. These boys are not easy to knock off the ball and can hold the ball up well. They also give us decent aerial presence in the box.

In the middle of the park we have Chippy and Nicolas who have worked well together. There is goals in those two too now that we have the ability to hold the ball up and giving them a chance to get forward.

We have a very sound defence with Butters and Cullip as our rocks. Harding and Reid on the flanks are also able to get forward when needed.

Kuipers in goal needs no bigging up.

The only area we are a little light weight is the left side of midfield but that has nothing to do with Currie anyway.


In short, the future is bright, the future is Albion!

:ascarf:


So why cant we score more than 1 goal in a game?
 


Wardy

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Oct 9, 2003
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In front of the PC
The more I think about this the more I am starting to see that maybe it was not a bad move. The big question here is what is more important. Staying up but having no money and no ground and ultimatly no club or risking the chance of going down and have another 250k to help fight the tossers who are holding up Falmer.

Currie was our best player this season, he scared other teams and he will be missed, but he was on a one year deal, we cannot afford to offer him the sort of money that Ipswich will be giving him, this would mean that come the end of the season he would be off for nothing.

We have made 250k in 6 months. For a club like us that is a great return. We are not in a postion where we can turn down that kind of money. Yes we are all sorry that he as gone, but lets get behind the team tomorrow and lets look to the future.

The future is bright...
The future is FALMER.
 




Kev the Ape said:
Dan Harding will be gone next. This is all down to DK fault again :angry:. Where are the beautiful crosses going to come from? And the corners will be crap like last season. Thank you DK. :angry:


Your girlfriend posts are bad enough Kev, but at least they are harmless enough. Posts like the one above really do show you to be a brainless, worthless gimp. DK saved this club, who are you to take swipes like that at him you prick.
 


S'hampton Seagull

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Oct 12, 2003
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Southampton
ManOnTheRun said:
Far from being the end of our season this could be the start ..... if McGhee is given the money to get some fresh faces in.:thumbsup:

Best we can hope ofr is a couple of loan signings I think.
 


Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
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Re: Re: Can everyone please calm down!

The Wookiee said:
So why cant we score more than 1 goal in a game?

Since Claridge came on board Virgo has been suspended with the exception of West Ham. If you expected more than 1 goal there then you are mad.

Millwall is the first oportunity we have had to play Virgo and Claridge up front and attack a bit. The real test will be against Stoke and especially Gillingham at home. I think if Virgo were not suspended then he would have been playing upfront with Claridge the last three games. I doubt very much that Knight would have got a look in. Currie was a good crosser of the ball and set piece taker BUT he was no good at attacking the goal from the flanks. Knight will now be in the first team again and IS good at attackng the goal. It will be much easier to get the ball to his feet if he is on the wing. He then has the choice of running the ball in and having a pop himself or whipping a cross in for Virgo and Claridge to get on the end of.

I see no reason why Knight cannot take our free kicks and corners either? he has taken free kicks before and is pretty damn good at them. He is also not much use in the box during a corner!

I genuinely excited about the changes McGhee is going to be forced to make now and I think you will be presently suprised by the players we still have. There is now scope to improve things still further by getting a loan or free transfer striker in to replace Virgo and or Claridge!

Exciting times indeed! We may even start to score a few more goals!
 




Uncle Buck

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Jul 7, 2003
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Re: Re: Re: Can everyone please calm down!

Lammy said:
I genuinely excited about the changes McGhee is going to be forced to make now and I think you will be presently suprised by the players we still have. There is now scope to improve things still further by getting a loan or free transfer striker in to replace Virgo and or Claridge!

Exciting times indeed! We may even start to score a few more goals!

Glad you are as I am not. I will buy you a pint in the Market Porter tomorrow if the team is not something along these lines;

Kuipers

Reid
Harding
Hinsh
Cullip
Butters

Carpenter
Nicolas
Park Footballer

Claridge
Virgo

Meaning that the best 2 attacking options are not in the side, one because he has been sold, the other because our manager does not like him.

The way things are going our reserves are going to have a better striking line up in Knight, Robinson and Molango than the first team do.
 


3gulls

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Jul 26, 2004
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ManOnTheRun said:
Far from being the end of our season this could be the start ..... if McGhee is given the money to get some fresh faces in.:thumbsup:

Yes, IF that happens things will be great. But, we all know that it will not happen, so our struggling team just got weaker. :nono:
 


Muzzman

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Jul 8, 2003
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Here and There
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Don't panic! :moo:
 


Lammy

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Oct 1, 2003
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Newhaven/Lewes/Atlanta
Re: Re: Re: Re: Can everyone please calm down!

Uncle Buck said:
Glad you are as I am not. I will buy you a pint in the Market Porter tomorrow if the team is not something along these lines;

Kuipers

Reid
Harding
Hinsh
Cullip
Butters

Carpenter
Nicolas
Park Footballer

Claridge
Virgo

Meaning that the best 2 attacking options are not in the side, one because he has been sold, the other because our manager does not like him.

The way things are going our reserves are going to have a better striking line up in Knight, Robinson and Molango than the first team do.

You are probably right but I think the real test will come when we play Stoke and Gills at home. I would like to think that Knight starts against Millwall but I suspect he will be on the bench and brought on if we go a goal down.

I'm not expecting the most exciting clash tomorrow but our next two home games could be interesting...

I'll look forward to that pint btw ;)
 




bellsize seagull

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Mar 1, 2004
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the money is obviously going to be made available for players some people on this site are so quick to rush in and not think about the bigger picture. The club has a number of financial issues the costs of the Withdean and trying to get money together for when the public enquiry re opens in February.
We have lost players before and will do again that is what happens when you need money and don't have your own facilities you have to seel your best players, Currie could well be playing premeiership football next season so the move is good for his own personal development. The club has a number of great players who can come in to fill his boots and i think Jones is the one to do it, him and Hammond need to be brought in i reckon.
We will go and get a resault tommorow and all will be okay !!! :)
 




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