Cameron decides to take the pay rise.

[Nibble]

Don't see what the issue is, how many people on this board have ever refused a pay rise? And the salary for job he does is terrible anyway. Most CEOs will earn twice what he will and he's the CEO of an entire country. There can't be many more stressful jobs than being Prime Minister, regardless of which party you are in.

So you're happy he stated he would refuse it. Say he disagrees with it but take it anyway? Happy with that stance? From the leader of the country? Unbelievable.

 

[5mins-from-amex]

Labour lost the election get over it, all this anti tory shit is boring now.

 

[goldstone]

Good decision to sort this out now at the beginning of a parliament. We need to pay decent salaries to get the right people interested in becoming MPs .... and remember this will not cost the taxpayer anything as a result of a decrease in expenses and pensions. So what's not to like?

 

[Nibble]

Labour lost the election get over it, all this anti tory shit is boring now.

They won by a democratic vote. And in a democracy you can critisise your "leaders". Get over it.

 

[Nibble]

Good decision to sort this out now at the beginning of a parliament. We need to pay decent salaries to get the right people interested in becoming MPs .... and remember this will not cost the taxpayer anything as a result of a decrease in expenses and pensions. So what's not to like?

The U turn.

 

[nwgull]

Good decision to sort this out now at the beginning of a parliament. We need to pay decent salaries to get the right people interested in becoming MPs .... and remember this will not cost the taxpayer anything as a result of a decrease in expenses and pensions. So what's not to like?

Not to mention the fact that a pay rise to 650 odd MPs has about as much of an effect on the taxpayer as a gnat's fart in a hurricane.

 

[Nibble]

Not to mention the fact that a pay rise to 650 odd MPs has about as much of an effect on the taxpayer as a gnat's fart in a hurricane.

I like a principled leader. Utter shambles.

 

[5mins-from-amex]

They won by a democratic vote. And in a democracy you can criticise your "leaders". Get over it.

Criticise all you like no skin off my nose, you just seem to keep getting your knickers in a twist.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

So you're happy he stated he would refuse it. Say he disagrees with it but take it anyway? Happy with that stance? From the leader of the country? Unbelievable.

He physically has to take it - IPSA guidelines don't allow otherwise.

What he does with the money once he has the salary is up to him, but there is no mechanism to rejecting the cash- and last night on the news he alluded to giving the 'rise' to charity anyway. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

 

[Nibble]

Criticise all you like no skin off my nose, you just seem to keep getting your knickers in a twist.

And rightly so. What a joke this country has become. You're the mugs, defending the bloke. Turkey's voting for Christmas.

 

[Ernest]

Is this the same pay rise he said before the election he wouldn't take ?

 

[Nibble]

He physically has to take it - IPSA guidelines don't allow otherwise.

What he does with the money once he has the salary is up to him, but there is no mechanism to rejecting the cash- and last night on the news he alluded to giving the 'rise' to charity anyway. Stop making mountains of our molehills.

Nonsense. It's a government appointed body and remains so because it always decides in favour of the government.

 

[jakarta]

And rightly so. What a joke this country has become. You're the mugs, defending the bloke. Turkey's voting for Christmas.

You are actually going to physically explode at some point on this thread aren't you?

 

[Ernest]

By the same standards of a committee making a recommendation to Parliament that they then must obey I guess the 3rd runway at Heathrow will start construction on Monday or is it they only obey recommendations that they like ?

 

[Nibble]

You are actually going to physically explode at some point on this thread aren't you?

Haha! Yes. Probably! Is best get down the boozer.

**** the **** Cameron.

Peace

Xx

 

[CHAPPERS]

Caroline Lucas is giving hers to charity.

 

[StonehamPark]

And that makes what difference exactly? Pay rise? Okay. Maybe. But to bang on about how much you don't agree with it but then trouser it anyway. Born a ****. Ministers like a ****. Will die a ****. ****.

Well clearly he won't be the only one taking it. All MP's will. But to categorically state he won't take it and then take it! Supposed to be a leader.

Nice try from the right on this board to try and rationalise it. Fail. Not even the hardest right on here can defend that. And you bloody know it.

At least I now know your buttons

Regardless whether he supported it or not, he's not going to be the only guy to refuse the pay increase is he.
You're in an office of 700 staff, 33% of you state that you do not want a bonus. 6 months later, the office is given the bonus, do you give it back or just get on with life?

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Nonsense. It's a government appointed body and remains so because it always decides in favour of the government.

If you knew how IPSA worked (which you dont) you would understand that if Cameron vetoed this - as his Government has the power to do. Then IPSA would become redudant, as is stated in the articles which by it was created.

He never rejected the pay rise, he called it not appropriate, which is very very different.

You say it always decides in favour of the Government, but on this very issue it has opposed them.

From the Guardian:

The government has written to the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) to underline concerns over the body’s decision to increase MPs’ pay by £6,700 a year.

“A pay rise of this nature at this time is not appropriate,” says the letter from the leader of the House of Commons, Chris Grayling.

For example Mhari Black - the 20 year old SNP MP doesn't want the pay rise, and is giving it to charity, good on her. But she still has to accept it, just the same as David Cameron does.

This is the same Cameron who has frozen Ministers pay for 10 years - where is the thread on that?

 

[Nibble]

If you knew how IPSA worked (which you dont) you would understand that if Cameron vetoed this - as his Government has the power to do. Then IPSA would become redudant, as is stated in the articles which by it was created.

He never rejected the pay rise, he called it not appropriate, which is very very different.

You say it always decides in favour of the Government, but on this very issue it has opposed them.

From the Guardian:

The government has written to the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) to underline concerns over the body’s decision to increase MPs’ pay by £6,700 a year.

“A pay rise of this nature at this time is not appropriate,” says the letter from the leader of the House of Commons, Chris Grayling.

For example Mhari Black - the 20 year old SNP MP doesn't want the pay rise, and is giving it to charity, good on her. But she still has to accept it, just the same as David Cameron does.

This is the same Cameron who has frozen Ministers pay for 10 years - where is the thread on that?

Yet he takes the rise regardless. Oh well, I guess the majority voted ( they didn't, the y took part in an outdated voting system that was never designed for this many parties) so we'll all just lay down and accept it.

All the best with that.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

By the same standards of a committee making a recommendation to Parliament that they then must obey I guess the 3rd runway at Heathrow will start construction on Monday or is it they only obey recommendations that they like ?

The Airports Commission which published the Heathrow report chaired by Sir Howard Davies answers to the Department for Transport. IPSA is not part of the Executive like this and is separate.