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Calling all NSC doctors, please settle an argument, why aren't I dead.



Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Recently I brought an all singing and dancing Garmin cycling GPS gizmo.
Being the chunkiest cyclist, of the group, my H/R is where we get our giggles from!.

After Sunday's ride we were looking through my stats only to see my max H/R was a staggering 240bpm.

We laughed about this, and I laughed it off as a glitch.
But as I looked into it, it turns out the bpm is probably correct as it 'spiked', for 30 secs, at the moment we had a near miss, then I had a 217bpm 'aftershock' a couple of minutes later.

People (nowhere near as knowledgeable as anyone on here) have now suggested that 4 beats per second will cause my heart to explode.

So as the title suggests why didn't to and why aren't I dead!.
(my max bpm works out at 180).
 




Stoichkov

The Miserable Bulgarian
Jul 26, 2004
1,335
Brighton
Sometimes, static will cause spikes.

I get it with mine - usually only at the start of a run or cycle. It'll show a sudden peak at 230-240bpm before settling down at normal levels. My 'real' max bpm is about 190bpm although I haven't touched that for a while - perhaps I never will again!
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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That's what I had it as, but following the route map with cadence, on Player, the spike did actually occur at the exact moment I was nearly ploughed into.
That did scare the bejesus out of me, leaving me to think there might actually be some truth into the reading. :ohmy:
 




Stoichkov

The Miserable Bulgarian
Jul 26, 2004
1,335
Brighton
That's what I had it as, but following the route map with cadence, on Player, the spike did actually occur at the exact moment I was nearly ploughed into.
That did scare the bejesus out of me, leaving me to think there might actually be some truth into the reading. :ohmy:

That is odd then because if I've had a scare, when I've looked at it afterwards its not shown any discernable increase.

So, you should by rights be dead. Congratulations - now you're 'reborn' what are you going to do with the rest of your life?
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
Recently I brought an all singing and dancing Garmin cycling GPS gizmo.
Being the chunkiest cyclist, of the group, my H/R is where we get our giggles from!.

After Sunday's ride we were looking through my stats only to see my max H/R was a staggering 240bpm.

We laughed about this, and I laughed it off as a glitch.
But as I looked into it, it turns out the bpm is probably correct as it 'spiked', for 30 secs, at the moment we had a near miss, then I had a 217bpm 'aftershock' a couple of minutes later.

People (nowhere near as knowledgeable as anyone on here) have now suggested that 4 beats per second will cause my heart to explode.

So as the title suggests why didn't to and why aren't I dead!.
(my max bpm works out at 180).

The way to tell if you are dead or not is to look at the Albion's results, if we are top of the league and on the verge of promotion and about to move into a state of the art new stadium then you i'm afraid your really in heaven!! - If the Albion are struggling, everyone is moaning and we are playing at Withdean or worse, Gillingham - then your in hell my friend
 


seagullwedgee

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Aug 9, 2005
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Just be very careful you're not pushing yourself too hard. Doing so could push your ticker into a temporary state of atrial fibrillation, where the atria fibrillate at anything up to 300bpm. The atria feed the ventricles, the ventricles get confused because they are not getting a consistent filling up through the mitral valve, and begin themselves to squeeze blood around the body (your pulse) at an incredibly irregular, and often sky high, rate of bpm.

Take the advice from someone who has suffered for more than 5 years, and had several procedures to address it, don't push too hard, and if you feel it's worth getting it checked out, an ECG can easily be arranged at your local medical centre on modern hand held devices, with the results immediately fed to your GPs computer screen to be interpreted.

You should be enjoying your exercise, not unwittingly trying to do yourself damage - learn form someone who didnt take his own advice! Take it steady. And if in doubt, get it checked.

Now get back to your beer. Come on 'pool!
 


Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
It doesn't count over a full minute - the machine will average the beats out - so if you have 3 beats in rapid succession it will put your heart rate artificially high - however if you measure it radially over a full minute it'll actually be far more normal.

A rate of 240 over a prolonged time will kill you, but if you're just having it over periods of high stress / impact like your scare, then that's ok, it's how quickly you recover from that which is important.
 




Stat Brother

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Yeah just a little bit of coincidence, together with perhaps a quick flurry of beats.
I was pleased how remarkably consist my HR was over the subsequent climbs.
 


driller

my life my word
Oct 14, 2006
2,875
The posh bit
The heart could be in spasm. Is not beating fully but kind of trembling which will give a reading this high.

Called exercise induced tachycardia.

Or your Atrium - a heart chamber is beating out of rhythum giving this reading called atrial tachycardia
 


Seagull on the wing

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Sep 22, 2010
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Hailsham
driller;4053663 Or your Atrium - a heart chamber is beating out of rhythum giving this reading called atrial tachycardia[/QUOTE said:
I have just found out that this is what I suffer from,cures suggested are Warfarin,Electric shock treatment,fitting of pacemaker,apart from being breathless,especially on exercise like climbing stairs and getting tired quickly I feel OK.
 






Horton's halftime iceberg

Blooming Marvellous
Jan 9, 2005
16,491
Brighton
Take it easy stat brother, slow and easy on them pedals, you would not want to miss next season now...

Even the man of the moment, the beast that is Cancellara don't hit them peaks when winning the classics, perhaps you should invest in his bike and try the Cyclo Flaners Classic, then we will know your on your way to pantani heaven..

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adrian29uk

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Sep 10, 2003
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Just be very careful you're not pushing yourself too hard. Doing so could push your ticker into a temporary state of atrial fibrillation, where the atria fibrillate at anything up to 300bpm. The atria feed the ventricles, the ventricles get confused because they are not getting a consistent filling up through the mitral valve, and begin themselves to squeeze blood around the body (your pulse) at an incredibly irregular, and often sky high, rate of bpm.

Take the advice from someone who has suffered for more than 5 years, and had several procedures to address it, don't push too hard, and if you feel it's worth getting it checked out, an ECG can easily be arranged at your local medical centre on modern hand held devices, with the results immediately fed to your GPs computer screen to be interpreted.

You should be enjoying your exercise, not unwittingly trying to do yourself damage - learn form someone who didnt take his own advice! Take it steady. And if in doubt, get it checked.

Now get back to your beer. Come on 'pool!

Wise words. Must of been a couple of months ago I absolutely hammered up the slope from the marina up to the main road. It was not until I got to the top and stopped it felt like my heart was going to explode. Seriously it took me about 10 mins for my rate to stabilize it was pumping that hard.

What I did there was silly, and now for the sake of getting up there 2 minutes earlier I take it easy on bigger hills. There is no rush, I'm not in the tour de france and any exercise is better then no exercise.
 




Indurain's Lungs

Legend of Garry Nelson
Jun 22, 2010
2,260
Dorset
QUOTE=seagullwedgee;4053541]Just be very careful you're not pushing yourself too hard. Doing so could push your ticker into a temporary state of atrial fibrillation, where the atria fibrillate at anything up to 300bpm. The atria feed the ventricles, the ventricles get confused because they are not getting a consistent filling up through the mitral valve, and begin themselves to squeeze blood around the body (your pulse) at an incredibly irregular, and often sky high, rate of bpm.

Take the advice from someone who has suffered for more than 5 years, and had several procedures to address it, don't push too hard, and if you feel it's worth getting it checked out, an ECG can easily be arranged at your local medical centre on modern hand held devices, with the results immediately fed to your GPs computer screen to be interpreted.

You should be enjoying your exercise, not unwittingly trying to do yourself damage - learn form someone who didnt take his own advice! Take it steady. And if in doubt, get it checked.

Now get back to your beer. Come on 'pool![/QUOTE]

As a doctor and former full-time racing cyclist, i can definitely say that you cannot put yourself into atrial fibrillation by pushing yourself hard without an underlying heart problem. 99% of people don't need to back off for fear of this. AF will cause your heart to beat irregularly (either at a fast or a slow rate) and alcohol is by far the biggest cause of this - not exercise!

Fibrillation is the quivering of the atria that leads to the irregular heartbeat. As atria only contribute about 25% to the filling of your ventricles, you can still carry on normal activities during this but are at a higher risk of the blood forming clots in the atria. Tachycardia just means a fast heart rate.

ECG could be normal in between episodes so if you feel you have an irregular or unusually fast heartbeat at rest then go and get yourself checked.

In terms of the heart rate spike on your monitor, that will just be caused by fluctuations in the transmission from the heart rate strap. Stress/shock will not put your heart rate up by much and certainly not above your maximum.


Wise words. Must of been a couple of months ago I absolutely hammered up the slope from the marina up to the main road. It was not until I got to the top and stopped it felt like my heart was going to explode. Seriously it took me about 10 mins for my rate to stabilize it was pumping that hard.

What I did there was silly, and now for the sake of getting up there 2 minutes earlier I take it easy on bigger hills. There is no rush, I'm not in the tour de france and any exercise is better then no exercise.

That's because of your fitness level and hence your ability to recover from maximal efforts. Heart rate will remain elevated during the recovery phase - this is part of the effect used in interval training.
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
It has to be a problem with the heart monitor. Garmin GPS often go it crazy when you turn them on, they try and work out your position and have you charging around at 100s of mph, sometimes. Maybe the heart rate bit does this too as you turn it on. Do you have to set a start point from when you want it to record your ride? It normally works best if you are up and riding before you set them off.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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West west west Sussex
Cancellera's max speed at Flanders is exactly the same as my max ever, 49mph.
Mine was in the less romantic setting of Coldean Lane! :lol:

Obviously that's where the similarities end, VERY abruptly.
 


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