[Football] Burnley

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I don't particularly care about other teams postponing but it does irk me that <snip> the wolves game <snip> we lost it.

My feelings are slightly less nuanced (above).

 

[Wozza]

A relative has told me there is a brilliant interview with Dyche on Burnley fans forum. Heading is Dyche reacts to Wood transfer
Worth seeing if anybody can copy to here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UomNoskgi5o&ab_channel=FarleyTV

 

[severnside gull]

Far from convinced that being unable to field a team because you’ve sold your star player for multi millions is sending the right message to the wider football family. I’ve some sympathy with the view that newly signed players should be barred from playing in rearranged matches.

 

[Badger Boy]

I'm not sure Liverpool want to avoid Brentford & Palace to make sure they have their AFCON players back.

Didn't fancy Arsenal in the League Cup though did they? Got that one postponed, I'm not in the know enough to know who was available for last week that wasn't available for the week before but clearly someone had become available. Arsenal loaned out Balogun and Maitland-Niles in order to get their game with Tottenham off. That's the most blatant contravention of the rules so far in my opinion - they knew what they were doing. At least Burnley didn't have a choice with Chris Wood.

 

[Springal]

Didn't fancy Arsenal in the League Cup though did they? Got that one postponed, I'm not in the know enough to know who was available for last week that wasn't available for the week before but clearly someone had become available. Arsenal loaned out Balogun and Maitland-Niles in order to get their game with Tottenham off. That's the most blatant contravention of the rules so far in my opinion - they knew what they were doing. At least Burnley didn't have a choice with Chris Wood.

But only postponed the first leg a week, the second leg planned this week so AFCON makes no difference. I think Klopp has a bit more confidence in his team to deliberately postpone games.

Like I keep saying, the moment the PL caved to
Media & club pressure to ‘publish’ the guidelines to call a game off it was always going to be used by those who would want to get an advantage.

But it’s to late now - they need to say no more games postponed but then some will say it’s unfair if they do have a covid outbreak

 

[studio150]

I just heard a snippet of Sean Dyche on 5Live discussing this.

He said in training this morning they had "10 recognised first team players". It doesn't sound unreasonable that they make up the numbers with younger players, as other clubs have done already.

TBF, can any of us recognise any Burnley player other than Ashley and Dale.

 

[The Optimist]

Far from convinced that being unable to field a team because you’ve sold your star player for multi millions is sending the right message to the wider football family. I’ve some sympathy with the view that newly signed players should be barred from playing in rearranged matches.

They had no choice in the sale of Wood to Newcastle. He had a buyout clause which Newcastle met.

 

[severnside gull]

They had no choice in the sale of Wood to Newcastle. He had a buyout clause which Newcastle met.

But a contract they negotiated so not bad luck with illness or injuries - they put themselves in the situation

 

[Easy 10]

They had no choice in the sale of Wood to Newcastle. He had a buyout clause which Newcastle met.

Well....not quite. That buyout clause didn't kick in till the summer, but Burnley decided to cash in their chips on Wood this month instead.

American owners, eh.

 

[Perkino]

Shocking that a fixture would be postponed. We easily have 50+ players available within the academy that would be capable of playing as would most premier league clubs

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

That wouldn't be a problem for this game - Burnley 3 Watford 0 on 15th December, when Watford couldn't raise a team. There would have been no rearrangement. The idea that Watford should have the game put off when they were short staffed, but Burnley should have to play now that Watford are back up to strength - hardly fair, is it.

It's a fair point well made

 

[GT49er]

Well....not quite. That buyout clause didn't kick in till the summer, but Burnley decided to cash in their chips on Wood this month instead.

American owners, eh.

Well, no. The buyout clause is put in to effectively protect the club - it is set at such a high price that no-one in their right minds will trigger it. Unfortunately and unforeseen for Burnley somebody came along sufficiently not in their right minds and paid way over the odds.

 

[Easy 10]

Well, no. The buyout clause is put in to effectively protect the club - it is set at such a high price that no-one in their right minds will trigger it. Unfortunately and unforeseen for Burnley somebody came along sufficiently not in their right minds and paid way over the odds.

Yes, but that buyout clause didn't kick-in until the summer. So they didn't HAVE to take the £25m this month - but they decided to take it anyway, fully in the knowledge there was zero chance of getting anything like that type of fee for Wood from anyone once this window was shut.

That club has been loaded with debt from the buyout by the american owners (much like what the Glazers did at Man U). This was a handy windfall for the shareholders, but if I was a Burnley fan, I wouldn't expect to see much of that £25m re-invested in the squad.

And they didn't have to do that deal this month.

 

[The Optimist]

Well....not quite. That buyout clause didn't kick in till the summer, but Burnley decided to cash in their chips on Wood this month instead.

American owners, eh.

Oh. I didn’t know that.

 

[Easy 10]

Oh. I didn’t know that.

Joining the dots, I'd say that Wood's agent probably made it known to a (desperate) NUFC that his 30 year old client might be receptive a move, and that the Burnley owners wouldn't be adverse to cashing in on him IF the buy-out clause was met, even if is was being activated 6 months early (being as they know they'd get nowhere near that for him at any point in the future).

And thus, the wheels were greased.

 

[RM-Taylor]

Confirmed as game postponed v Watford.

 

[GT49er]

Yes, but that buyout clause didn't kick-in until the summer. So they didn't HAVE to take the £25m this month - but they decided to take it anyway, fully in the knowledge there was zero chance of getting anything like that type of fee for Wood from anyone once this window was shut.

That club has been loaded with debt from the buyout by the american owners (much like what the Glazers did at Man U). This was a handy windfall for the shareholders, but if I was a Burnley fan, I wouldn't expect to see much of that £25m re-invested in the squad.

And they didn't have to do that deal this month.

Oh. I didn’t know that.

I didn't know that either. What's DSRBurnley got to say about it, I wonder?

TBF, though, they'd have been mad to turn down an offer that outrageous for Wood.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Yes, but that buyout clause didn't kick-in until the summer. So they didn't HAVE to take the £25m this month .

I believe that was just a rumour which was incorrect. Even Chris Wood says the clause was triggered.

 

[Easy 10]

I believe that was just a rumour which was incorrect. Even Chris Wood says the clause was triggered.

It was being widely reported across the media, and not just the idiot red-top comics.

Yes as Wood says the clause was triggered, but it was triggered early and it makes sense. It was in the interests of Wood, Wood's agent, Newcastle and Burnley's owners (in short-term financial terms at least). All parties wanted the deal done to get the $$$. Probably aside from Dyche, that is.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Not just us - Palace / Spurs from memory. Get the games done I say - some clubs are going to have a lot of games to cram in which will lead to further injuries etc

Spurs got kicked out of the mighty Confernece league because they refused to postpone the Leicester game so they could play it then.

Three days later they postponed it for player numbers at Leicester.

They are a shambles.