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[Albion] Burnley fan charged with racially abusing Gaetan Bong











blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
CPS cock up. The tried old introducing evidence at the last minute that they found down the back of their sofa but conveniently too late to show to the defence.

That sounds like you're saying the CPS sabotaged to prosecution. Is that what you're saying?
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
CPS cock up. The tried old introducing evidence at the last minute that they found down the back of their sofa but conveniently too late to show to the defence.

How do you know when the evidence was sent to the CPS? How do you know how many times the evidence was requested but not in time for disclosure?
 




Saunders

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2017
2,296
Brighton
How do you know when the evidence was sent to the CPS? How do you know how many times the evidence was requested but not in time for disclosure?

How do you know and lets be real here. You are a prosecutor and you are gathering evidence in a stadium with cameras everywhere and police with body cams and you dont go to them first. You cant just present it at the last minute and expect to get away with it. They considered they had enough evidence to take it to court before pulling this out of their magic hat so why even bother. Just smacks of arrogant stupidity.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
How do you know and lets be real here. You are a prosecutor and you are gathering evidence in a stadium with cameras everywhere and police with body cams and you dont go to them first. You cant just present it at the last minute and expect to get away with it. They considered they had enough evidence to take it to court before pulling this out of their magic hat so why even bother. Just smacks of arrogant stupidity.

How do I know? I know how many jobs have been cut on both sides, both at the police station and at the CPS. I know how stretched both sides are with 50% of the magistrates courts closing, and lack of time for reviewing, and getting disclosure to the defence.
Thank God I am retired now, because it is almost impossible to do a decent job any more in the justice system.
 


Saunders

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2017
2,296
Brighton
How do I know? I know how many jobs have been cut on both sides, both at the police station and at the CPS. I know how stretched both sides are with 50% of the magistrates courts closing, and lack of time for reviewing, and getting disclosure to the defence.
Thank God I am retired now, because it is almost impossible to do a decent job any more in the justice system.

I have sypathy with that but dont lose what is important you have to at least let the defence see what you are throwing at them.

Edit to add I am from the generation that you burnt all your bridges when there were no cuts
 
















blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
Sussex police yet again .

But if you vote Tory then you will get a Tory police force .

Clearly a silly comment.

However if you did want to make a political point against the Tories for this you could point to the massive cuts in funding across the entire public sector .... which you generally don't notice on a day to day level ..... until something happens to you
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,988
Congrats to Sussex OB and the CPS.

You are a shining beacon to those wanting to kick racism out of football and out of society

#sendingtherightmessage
 






Pinkie Brown

Wir Sind das Volk
Sep 5, 2007
3,637
Neues Zeitalter DDR 🇩🇪
Why? They haven't been found guilty of anything.

I'm not saying they did no wrong but a court of law couldn't prove they did so what grounds do Burnley have to ban them?

Plenty have been banned at the Amex without court convictions. They got off on a technicality as the CPS/police screwed up. If the video evidence is there they racially abused Bong they should be banned by Burnley FC.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,405
Location Location
Why? They haven't been found guilty of anything.

I'm not saying they did no wrong but a court of law couldn't prove they did so what grounds do Burnley have to ban them?

On the basis that they admitted in court that they were shouting racist and homophobic abuse - but that they considered it "banter" ?
 


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