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Burke on his way out? Update: Gone









Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,884
Brighton, UK
I really do fear for Paul Barber now. Maybe it would be nice to give him some respite over Christmas before you start again.

Two down, one to go. Then the very necessary blood-letting is done.
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,122
Haywards Heath
Paul Barber won't be going anywhere. He is doing his job.
 


Super Steve Earle

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
8,932
North of Brighton
Sami was a good guy, who knew not what he was getting into. Burke has delivered on a number of targets, but failed in the recruitment department. Neither of these chaps deserve hell and damnation, I hope they both get some kind of package to ease their lives over the coming months before they get themselves going again. I particularly hope they DB can put this aside as far as possible and relax with his family without letting this ruin all their Xmas', and then reassess in 2015.

NJ is proving to be a real club 'servant', and it would be nice if a role could be found within the new structure for him, although I do not want him as manager for the time being. I also hope PB is allowed to continue to run the non footballing side of the club for a long time, he is a professional and knows his job. Hopefully our new manager will be given free reign with team matters and PB need not get involved there.

To all those calling for more heads to go, please just stop and think a little, no one wants to fail, we all aim to suceed, and right now is a good time to wish 'Goodwill to all men,(maybe even women too!)', Bad joke!

Merry Xmas everyone.

I care deeply about my club and reading your post actually brought a tear to my eye. I completely and genuinely agree with you and echo your good wishes to them.

Merry Christmas to everyone at the club and to all our supporters.
 




Marty___Mcfly

I see your wicked plan - I’m a junglist.
Sep 14, 2011
2,251
At this rate even Gully must be worried about getting the boot. Barber is probably at this moment shitting himself whilst writing a spin-filled article for the Boxing Day programme, everything looking great, don't forget to pop to the club shop etc.. :)
 




daveyboy1973

New member
Feb 5, 2010
509
bexleyheath
Barbers ok as long as he stops preaching to the fans all the time, I also think nj has to go as well, total clean sweep, and let the new man have TOTAL CONTROL over all football matters
 






DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
Sami was a good guy, who knew not what he was getting into. Burke has delivered on a number of targets, but failed in the recruitment department. Neither of these chaps deserve hell and damnation, I hope they both get some kind of package to ease their lives over the coming months before they get themselves going again. I particularly hope they DB can put this aside as far as possible and relax with his family without letting this ruin all their Xmas', and then reassess in 2015.

NJ is proving to be a real club 'servant', and it would be nice if a role could be found within the new structure for him, although I do not want him as manager for the time being. I also hope PB is allowed to continue to run the non footballing side of the club for a long time, he is a professional and knows his job. Hopefully our new manager will be given free reign with team matters and PB need not get involved there.

To all those calling for more heads to go, please just stop and think a little, no one wants to fail, we all aim to suceed, and right now is a good time to wish 'Goodwill to all men,(maybe even women too!)', Bad joke!

Merry Xmas everyone.

I completely agree with this. Two correct decisions for Hyypia and Burke to move on, but now they have I don't bear any ill will towards either. Our training ground and academy are superb and if Burke did run their set-up, then he should go with genuine thanks and the best wishes for the future.
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,947
Crap Town
Looks like Tony Bloom has changed his poker nickname from The Lizard to The Godfather
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
You are right about Upson, I apologise.

My point was that we didn't seem to significantly weaken things under Garcia, which included some dealings by the recruitment setup.

The last point I was trying to make is that it is quite clear that for the last year or so our signings have been done on a budget. I don't think anyone would choose to take a punt on the likes of Toko Nzuzi if they could have £2 mil to buy a proven Championship midfielder. But we clearly can't do that.

As said above, I am not defending Burke, just not sure replacing him will prove the quick-fix everyone thinks it is. But I hope it will be.

We WON'T be replacing Burke. That is the KEY point. Thankfully, we are going to hire an experienced MANAGER, you know, one that can actually recruit his own players / be accountable for recruitment.
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Sami was a good guy, who knew not what he was getting into. Burke has delivered on a number of targets, but failed in the recruitment department. Neither of these chaps deserve hell and damnation, I hope they both get some kind of package to ease their lives over the coming months before they get themselves going again. I particularly hope they DB can put this aside as far as possible and relax with his family without letting this ruin all their Xmas', and then reassess in 2015.

NJ is proving to be a real club 'servant', and it would be nice if a role could be found within the new structure for him, although I do not want him as manager for the time being. I also hope PB is allowed to continue to run the non footballing side of the club for a long time, he is a professional and knows his job. Hopefully our new manager will be given free reign with team matters and PB need not get involved there.

To all those calling for more heads to go, please just stop and think a little, no one wants to fail, we all aim to suceed, and right now is a good time to wish 'Goodwill to all men,(maybe even women too!)', Bad joke!

Merry Xmas everyone.

Sami and Burke got what they deserved for their respective failures. Should have been axed about 2 months ago. Jones will need to go too. Sorry, but ANY decent manager will want to bring in his own assistant.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,352
(North) Portslade
We WON'T be replacing Burke. That is the KEY point. Thankfully, we are going to hire an experienced MANAGER, you know, one that can actually recruit his own players / be accountable for recruitment.

Bloody hell - one slightly mis-used word and you're talking to me like a child, haven't you got anything better to do on Xmas eve?

My KEY point is that I don't think bad decision making by Burke is the ONLY reason we have a poor squad, and unless the right manager is given more money to spend than we have done, there is no certainty that the SQUAD will be any BETTER.
 




B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
True but it could be ramped up a bit :)

Edit: Joking though, I don't have a problem with him.

You should have a problem with Jones. He needs to be sacrificed to make way for the decent experienced manager we need. You know, the manager who will want to bring in his own assistant.
 
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seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,947
Crap Town
Or, indeed, any not-decent manager. Don't forget Hyypia had Sammy Lee signed to replace Jones, only to see him walk out on his contract...

In hindsight we now know that Sammy Lee saw the writing was on the wall.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
In hindsight we now know that Sammy Lee saw the writing was on the wall.

No we don't. It doesn't take a detective to work out why he left: was offered a job in the Premier League on, you have to assume, a far bigger wedge than the contract he'd just signed with us.
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Bloody hell - one slightly mis-used word and you're talking to me like a child, haven't you got anything better to do on Xmas eve?

My KEY point is that I don't think bad decision making by Burke is the ONLY reason we have a poor squad, and unless the right manager is given more money to spend than we have done, there is no certainty that the SQUAD will be any BETTER.

'Slightly mis-used' or just plain wrong? You need to re-read Tony's comments about Burke's departure, especially noting the word re-structure. The budget was there, Burke spent it unwisely. He got sacked.
 


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