burglar nine steals..........

[pornomagboy]

A nine-year-old "Oliver Twist" caught stealing jewellery from pensioners is believed to be Sussex's youngest burglar.

The boy, from Shoreham, had to be released by police without charge because he is under ten, the age of criminal responsibility.

He was working with a 15-yearold accomplice and they stole from properties in Shoreham after tricking the owners into letting them in.

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The pair stole jewellery worth about £600, some of it antique, from two houses.

They knocked on the front doors and asked if they could use the toilet. Once they were let in, they went upstairs and rifled through bedrooms looking for cash and jewellery.

Homes in the St Julian's Road and Middle Road area were targeted by the youngsters last Thursday afternoon.

Officers made door-to-door inquiries which revealed the two youngsters had asked to use the toilet at four other properties but had been refused.

Neighbours reported seeing the children knocking on doors of other homes where the owners were out, climbing over garden fences and looking through windows.

Police were alerted to the youngsters' suspicious behaviour after one of the victims called them to report the two boys.

At that stage, the person didn't release they had been burgled.

When the police arrived, the boys ran away but were caught a short time later.

All the jewellery has been retrieved and handed back to the owners.

Earlier this week, The Argus reported hundreds of youngsters across the county had escaped prosecution for crimes including burglary, sexual assault, arson and hate crimes in the past three years.

By 2006-07 the number of children committing crime who were under the age of criminal responsibility had fallen to 118.

Chief Inspector Lawrence Hobbs, of the Adur division of Sussex Police, said: "It's highly unusual for us to encounter someone so young committing crimes.

Children under ten can break the law in the full knowledge they will never appear before a court.

He will now be referred to the youth offending team to try to prevent him from committing more crime."

The burglaries echo the story of Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens in which a young boy becomes a trainee thief under the watchful eye of an older accomplice, the Artful Dodger.

Detective Constable Steve Webb said Shoreham officers had never encountered the nine-yearold but the 15-year-old, also from Shoreham, was known to them.

DC Webb said: "When they were caught, the 15-year-old was trying to blame the younger lad.

He did look very young but we arrested him thinking he might be ten."

When it was found he was nine, the boy was released. DC Webb said: "The lad certainly knew right from wrong but still went out and committed burglary."

The 15-year-old was released on bail pending further inquiries.

10:22am today

 

[pornomagboy]

what great parents he must have had

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Also, an article about the 'Yung Offenderz'.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/loca...yobs_disperse_after_police_blitz_on_gangs.php

There bebo site http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MID=367137231&MemberId=3312696303

Makes you proud, doesn't it? :thud:

 

[Peteinblack]

"He will now be referred to the youth offending team to try to prevent him from committing more crime."

Fat lot of good that's going to do with a piece of chav trash like this.

We need to start making parents take more responsibility for their delinquent kids.

Indeed, I really think we are getting to the stage where some people - the 'Vicki Pollards' of this world - should be prevented from having children in the first place, because we seem to be breeding a whole underclass of these degenerate morons who will spend their whole lives either in prison or poncing off the dole, and therefore making the rest of us pay for them through our taxes.

 

[Clothes Peg]

what great parents he must have had

As soon as I opened this thread, I wondered how long it would take before someone blamed the parents or uttered that awful phrase "there's no such thing as problem children, it's problem parents".

 

[Starry]

Also, an article about the 'Yung Offenderz'.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/loca...yobs_disperse_after_police_blitz_on_gangs.php

There bebo site http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MID=367137231&MemberId=3312696303

Makes you proud, doesn't it? :thud:

damn. i tried to read that bebo webpage and it gave me a headache.

that boy who is 9 and went around stealing is the same age as my boy and while my boy is no angel he is certainly not aware that he could go around causing mayhem and never appear in court for it. pretty sad that a parent somewhere is happy or just doesn't care enough to let their young child wander around alone.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

damn. i tried to read that bebo webpage and it gave me a headache.

that boy who is 9 and went around stealing is the same age as my boy and while my boy is no angel he is certainly not aware that he could go around causing mayhem and never appear in court for it. pretty sad that a parent somewhere is happy or just doesn't care enough to let their young child wander around alone.

I could not understand a word of what was said in the comments section.

There was an article the other day (I can't remember which paper) that stated 'txt spk' may help kids to learn English. I am sorry, I thought the previous system had worked well for centuries! :thud:




NB 'There' was not my mistake - it was a cut and paste!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

As soon as I opened this thread, I wondered how long it would take before someone blamed the parents or uttered that awful phrase "there's no such thing as problem children, it's problem parents".

Well they would certainly have a case! What is a 9 year old doing in the company of a 15 year old friend and no adult supervision?!

 

[Bad Ash]

As soon as I opened this thread, I wondered how long it would take before someone blamed the parents or uttered that awful phrase "there's no such thing as problem children, it's problem parents".

And you think there is no truth to it?

Young children are very impressionable and their biggest role models are likely to be their parents and siblings. Of course it doesn't always follow that bad parents = bad kids and good parents = good kids, but there is certainly a positive correlation.

 

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There bebo site http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MID=367137231&MemberId=3312696303

Oh my days :thud:

 

[Tricky Dicky]

As soon as I opened this thread, I wondered how long it would take before someone blamed the parents or uttered that awful phrase "there's no such thing as problem children, it's problem parents".

As a matter of interest Gina, if it's not the parents who should be responsible, who do you thik it should be ? Without knowing the history of the boy, at 9 years old, most of your behaviour and attitude would have come from close family members, surely.

 

[Clothes Peg]

As a matter of interest Gina, if it's not the parents who should be responsible, who do you thik it should be ? Without knowing the history of the boy, at 9 years old, most of your behaviour and attitude would have come from close family members, surely.

Sure, it could be anyone in the family. Older siblings etc. We're assuming that he lives with a family and is not in care / fostered.

Peer pressure can be a huge influence, even at 9 years old. At 9 years old, I cared more about what my mates thought than my parents.

Even "good", middle class parents can have out of control kids. We're assuming this kid is some "chav" here. And isn't this debate just going to go the same way as all the others into the definition of a good parent? This parent may have thought that letting their child spend time outdoors, without their supervision was encouraging them to be independent and learning to look after themselves.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Sure, it could be anyone in the family. Older siblings etc. We're assuming that he lives with a family and is not in care / fostered.

Peer pressure can be a huge influence, even at 9 years old. At 9 years old, I cared more about what my mates thought than my parents.

Even "good", middle class parents can have out of control kids. We're assuming this kid is some "chav" here. And isn't this debate just going to go the same way as all the others into the definition of a good parent? This parent may have thought that letting their child spend time outdoors, without their supervision was encouraging them to be independent and learning to look after themselves.

As I say, I don't know the particular circumstances, so a certain amount of guesswork is involved - but when I was 9 years old (which admittedly if longer ago than I care to think about), I would never have been allowed off our premises without a parent or other well known adult, like a friends parent.

 

[Clothes Peg]

but when I was 9 years old (which admittedly if longer ago than I care to think about), I would never have been allowed off our premises without a parent or other well known adult, like a friends parent.[/QUOTE

Neither was I. But recently I have learned that my parents are far stricter than the more liberal approach to parenting that is more popular these days. The child may not have been given permission to be out. He could have snuck (past tense of sneak??) out. Or could have been on the way home from school with the trusted, but devious 15 year old.

I really don't know. But I don't think we should judge before we know the facts. But then again, isn't that what NSC is all about

 

[Pavilionaire]

I do blame the parents here.

This boy is 9 years old. When I was a similar age I lived with my mum in a one-parent family and was allowed to play outside in the streets until it got dark. As an only child I was pretty bold but never once did I think to enter the house of a stranger and, worse still, nick their jewellery.

Regular communication and good parenting should mean that kids know what behaviour oversteps the mark.

What should be done in cases like this? Give the parents one chance to talk to their kids then, if the kids do it again, fine the parents. Stop their benefits, take a fine out of their wages via their employer - this will force them to deal with the issue. Maybe the fines collected could go to a government parenting training programme.

My own mother had her car vandalised almost 3 months ago with £2,200 worth of damage done. It was 2 kids, other cars were done as well. The elder kid has just got an ASBO while the younger (over 10) is still being pursued through the courts. Some consolation - my mum is still driving round in a crappy Kia while her car gets fixed (yet again!)

Our law is an ass.

 

[reigate]

Neither was I. But recently I have learned that my parents are far stricter than the more liberal approach to parenting that is more popular these days.

QUOTE]

Your hardly aloud out now without proof you're not up to no good!

 

[Clothes Peg]

Neither was I. But recently I have learned that my parents are far stricter than the more liberal approach to parenting that is more popular these days.

QUOTE]

Your hardly aloud out now without proof you're not up to no good!

Well, when it's with delinquents like you who can't spell, then it's hardly suprising.

 

[reigate]

Well, when it's with delinquents like you who can't spell, then it's hardly suprising.

I'm a well qualified young executive!

 

[Tricky Dicky]

but when I was 9 years old (which admittedly if longer ago than I care to think about), I would never have been allowed off our premises without a parent or other well known adult, like a friends parent.[/QUOTE

Neither was I. But recently I have learned that my parents are far stricter than the more liberal approach to parenting that is more popular these days. The child may not have been given permission to be out. He could have snuck (past tense of sneak??) out. Or could have been on the way home from school with the trusted, but devious 15 year old.

I really don't know. But I don't think we should judge before we know the facts. But then again, isn't that what NSC is all about

But it's much more fun to generalise and jump to conclusions wihtout knowing the facts.

 

[Peteinblack]

I do blame the parents here.


What should be done in cases like this? Give the parents one chance to talk to their kids then, if the kids do it again, fine the parents. Stop their benefits, take a fine out of their wages via their employer - this will force them to deal with the issue. Maybe the fines collected could go to a government parenting training programme.

Our law is an ass.

Totally agree.

Too many parents seem to take the view that as long as their brats aren't under their feet, and are out of sight, they don't care what they're up to.

And then when the kid's caught getting up to no good, we get the excuses: 'the police are picking on him, innit' or 'Our Kyle's a good boy really, always sends his gran a birthday card' or some such nonsense'.

Incidentally, I bet if one of the householders had tried to stop the kid burgling his house, the householder would have been done for assault. This country is totally mad !