[Politics] British IS Girl wanting to return to the UK

[Hampster Gull]

Let me guess

Weirdo

 

[Baldseagull]

No, to be fair I was considering taking my holiday this year in a simply fabulous Baghuz resort. Perfectly normal behaviour.

I sense you are being disingenuous, but unless you had been convicted of a crime, would you expect to be stripped of your citizenship if you did take a trip somewhere suspect, however dodgy the geezers you hung out with were?

 

[TugWilson]

Weirdo

Hey listen you`re the one to advertise , your avatar says it all , i thought you had a headache but you were just a goblin`

 

[dangull]

Let the poor girl back. A brainwashed 15 year old, possibly not that intelligent and had bad people influencing her.

She could be a useful propaganda tool for the civilised world now that she's seen the errors of her ways.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Let the poor girl back. A brainwashed 15 year old, possibly not that intelligent and had bad people influencing her.

She could be a useful propaganda tool for the civilised world now that she's seen the errors of her ways.

Has she denied being IS and criticised them?

 

[TugWilson]

She has not been convicted of any terrorist activity, she denies taking part in any terrorist activity.

Let me guess .....you believe her , i know she thought there was a pool right !

 

[dangull]

Has she denied being IS and criticised them?

I haven't looked at it that closely, but judging from her last video where she was wearing western clothing and not Islamic style , I would assume yes.

 

[Baldseagull]

Let me guess .....you believe her , i know she thought there was a pool right !

I don't believe she should be judged by the Press, and I don't believe she should be stripped of citizenship without a trial. I reckon there is a high probability she has broken some laws, but I would like to see it proven, or not, before changing the course of her life.

 

[Bombadier Botty]

Let the poor girl back. A brainwashed 15 year old, possibly not that intelligent and had bad people influencing her.

She could be a useful propaganda tool for the civilised world now that she's seen the errors of her ways.

100% on the first part, although not convinced she'd have any propaganda merit tbh.

 

[TugWilson]

I don't believe she should be judged by the Press, and I don't believe she should be stripped of citizenship without a trial. I reckon there is a high probability she has broken some laws, but I would like to see it proven, or not, before changing the course of her life.

Answer in honesty - do you truly believe an organisation like ISIS would not demand an act of proof from any new recruits .....?

 

[Baldseagull]

Answer in honesty - do you truly believe an organisation like ISIS would not demand an act of proof from any new recruits .....?

For females, I don't think any act of proof would involve acts of violence, honestly, but if you know different show me the evidence.

 

[jcdenton08]

For females, I don't think any act of proof would involve acts of violence, honestly, but if you know different show me the evidence.

I don't think any amount of evidence about anything which contradicts your opinion will change your mind. It would just be a never-ending vortex of counter-arguments on tangentially related issues, eventually ending no doubt in criticism of whichever political party you don't like, or, finally, invocation of Godwin's law.

 

[Bombadier Botty]

ISIS couldn't afford to be fussy about women; as long as they were willing to churn out babies that was all the 'proof' required.

 

[Baldseagull]

I don't think any amount of evidence about anything which contradicts your opinion will change your mind. It would just be a never-ending vortex of counter-arguments on tangentially related issues, eventually ending no doubt in criticism of whichever political party you don't like, or, finally, invocation of Godwin's law.

Absolutely wrong, the only thing that will change my mind is evidence, I suspect we could argue about what constitutes good evidence, just because you seem to be a prick, based on the limited evidence I have, or am willing to seek out

 

[TugWilson]

For females, I don't think any act of proof would involve acts of violence, honestly, but if you know different show me the evidence.

Her own words , a dustbin full of heads didn`t bother me i opened the lid and just looked ! , she claimed she was sat near it doing her daily chores , so like all the rest of us then ?

If i thought for one minute in fact one second that this now woman could change i wouldn`t have said a word . But if this person regardless of gender were to harm a single soul if she were to be allowed to return to the country she shunned and hated , that she travelled 1000s of miles to fight against and kill it`s people and i had played a part in her return i would be no better than you . You who would have others look after her , you who would see her treated specially individually and seperately from others and have them pick up the vast bill , to receive protection that those around her in Syria had taken away along with their lives and the lives of their loved ones so that she can eventually be reunited with her now very wealthy family ( everything would have to be paid for ) in complete anonimity and protection with absolutely no guarantee of any side effects or reprisals . You would inflict this on a nation for what ? So that a prig like you can feel good about themselves .

 

[Billy the Fish]

She has not been convicted of any terrorist activity, she denies taking part in any terrorist activity.

What has that got to do with anything?

She travelled to a f**king war zone and shacked up with an extremist militia. If you think she'll just come back here and play happy families then you need psychiatric help. At best she'll need to be monitored for the rest of her life, what a waste of time and resources.

They've exploited a legal loophole to do this, it's clearly a bit murky from HMG. Good on them for getting their hands dirty because war and terrorism is a dirty business.

It's a shame they can't just do it for every other wrong'un who travels to a war zone where they're routinely beheading people, burning people alive, drowning people etc.

 

[GT49er]

Absolutely wrong, the only thing that will change my mind is evidence, I suspect we could argue about what constitutes good evidence, just because you seem to be a prick, based on the limited evidence I have, or am willing to seek out

Nothing will change your mind because you're a bigot. You might not like that, because you think you are some kind of super superior super liberal. You're not - you are prejudiced against anybody that doesn't conform to to your 'white middle class males are to blame for everything that'd ever happened' highly prejudiced agenda.


.Tolerance? Yes,uber-tolerance. It's a case of if you're not as uber-tolerant as me, you're a fascist. Fvck off. Reasonable people don't want the little shite back here.

 

[Baldseagull]

Her own words , a dustbin full of heads didn`t bother me i opened the lid and just looked ! , she claimed she was sat near it doing her daily chores , so like all the rest of us then ?

If i thought for one minute in fact one second that this now woman could change i wouldn`t have said a word . But if this person regardless of gender were to harm a single soul if she were to be allowed to return to the country she shunned and hated , that she travelled 1000s of miles to fight against and kill it`s people and i had played a part in her return i would be no better than you . You who would have others look after her , you who would see her treated specially individually and seperately from others and have them pick up the vast bill , to receive protection that those around her in Syria had taken away along with their lives and the lives of their loved ones so that she can eventually be reunited with her now very wealthy family ( everything would have to be paid for ) in complete anonimity and protection with absolutely no guarantee of any side effects or reprisals . You would inflict this on a nation for what ? So that a prig like you can feel good about themselves .

I don't get what you mean about me having her treated specially individually and separately from others? I am saying she should be treated the same as any other British Citizen, it is our Government that has singled her out for special treatment, and revoked her citizenship.

 

[Baldseagull]

Nothing will change your mind because you're a bigot. You might not like that, because you think you are some kind of super superior super liberal. You're not - you are prejudiced against anybody that doesn't conform to to your 'white middle class males are to blame for everything that'd ever happened' highly prejudiced agenda.


.Tolerance? Yes,uber-tolerance. It's a case of if you're not as uber-tolerant as me, you're a fascist. Fvck off. Reasonable people don't want the little shite back here.

I am not prejudiced, I can see what people are saying and if I am judging them, I am doing it on what they have posted. You can have a different opinion to me, but reason it out if you can, if you can't, fvck off yourself, and lose the chip on your white middle class shoulder.

It's a morally difficult situation, she was a child, she was groomed, but she is now an adult, and has not indicated huge regret. I don't think it is justified to just revoke her citizenship, if she is a problem, she is our problem, she was born and raised here.

 

[Baldseagull]

What has that got to do with anything?

She travelled to a f**king war zone and shacked up with an extremist militia. If you think she'll just come back here and play happy families then you need psychiatric help. At best she'll need to be monitored for the rest of her life, what a waste of time and resources.

They've exploited a legal loophole to do this, it's clearly a bit murky from HMG. Good on them for getting their hands dirty because war and terrorism is a dirty business.

It's a shame they can't just do it for every other wrong'un who travels to a war zone where they're routinely beheading people, burning people alive, drowning people etc.

Well at least you can see that. What would clean it up though is a trial of some kind, other than by media.