[Politics] British IS Girl wanting to return to the UK

[Javeaseagull]

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Now I know this is a troll posting.

Really? I am not trolling at all and find it odd that you think so. I suppose it takes all sorts of views which is great that we find on here but I can assure you I am not a WUM.
Why are we scared of a 19 year old, who isn't Joan of Arc, in this day and age. Apart from Daliy Mail readers who is worried by this girl?

 

[FIVESTEPS]

Really? I am not trolling at all and find it odd that you think so. I suppose it takes all sorts of views which is great that we find on here but I can assure you I am not a WUM.
Why are we scared of a 19 year old, who isn't Joan of Arc, in this day and age. Apart from Daliy Mail readers who is worried by this girl?

The parents of the children killed in Manchester have voiced there concerns.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Things I did when I was 15:

Maths
Science
Geography
Not join ISIS
P.E
English

You missed off joining the IRA !

 

[The Clamp]

You missed off joining the IRA !

Shhhh!

 

[wellquickwoody]

Really? I am not trolling at all and find it odd that you think so. I suppose it takes all sorts of views which is great that we find on here but I can assure you I am not a WUM.
Why are we scared of a 19 year old, who isn't Joan of Arc, in this day and age. Apart from Daliy Mail readers who is worried by this girl?

Why should DM readers in particular be worried?

 

[neilbard]

I heard on the radio that she has called her baby an Islamic name (that I can’t recall) which translates to something like “ act with violence” or “ kill with violence” or similar.

For that reason alone it’s probably best she stay away. It’s pretty obvious she only wants to come home now that ISIS have had their arse kicked. As a compromise we should take the baby in and give it a chance but her? Get to ****.

Jarrah

 

[The Clamp]

Why should DM readers in particular be worried?

Are people scared of her? I’m not, I just don’t think she should be afforded the privilege of living in the U.K. after she eschewed our values for those of a mob of murderous barbarians.

 

[Rodney Thomas]

I heard on the radio that she has called her baby an Islamic name (that I can’t recall) which translates to something like “ act with violence” or “ kill with violence” or similar.

For that reason alone it’s probably best she stay away. It’s pretty obvious she only wants to come home now that ISIS have had their arse kicked. As a compromise we should take the baby in and give it a chance but her? Get to ****.

Again, doesn’t seem fair that we shirk our responsibility (I.e. of dealing with our citizen) and let Syria deal with her. If she decides to blow herself up in a market square when ordinary Syrians are buying their fruit and veg then I couldnt abide by that. Bring her home, stick her in prison after a trail and put the baby into care to have a proper chance in life.

 

[Is it PotG?]

She'll probably get to return, some smart arsed lawyer (paid for by?) will get her 3.5 hours community service on a technicality then we're allowed to sit back and enjoy her reaping the rewards of our benefit system.

Happy days.

 

[Razzoo]

She'll probably get to return, some smart arsed lawyer (paid for by?) will get her 3.5 hours community service on a technicality then we're allowed to sit back and enjoy her reaping the rewards of our benefit system.

Happy days.

And then she will sell her story and make wheelbarrows full of £

 

[BN9 BHA]

Really? I am not trolling at all and find it odd that you think so. I suppose it takes all sorts of views which is great that we find on here but I can assure you I am not a WUM.
Why are we scared of a 19 year old, who isn't Joan of Arc, in this day and age. Apart from Daliy Mail readers who is worried by this girl?

If you are not trolling or a WUM ,you are either very good at playing Devils advocate, or you are a bit of a terrorist sympathiser.

You seem far too worried about someone that joined an evil terrorist organisation.

 

[Jim D]

Again, doesn’t seem fair that we shirk our responsibility (I.e. of dealing with our citizen) and let Syria deal with her. If she decides to blow herself up in a market square when ordinary Syrians are buying their fruit and veg then I couldnt abide by that. Bring her home, stick her in prison after a trail and put the baby into care to have a proper chance in life.

The problems are likely to arise with this 'trial'. What will she be charged with and what evidence will be brought? I doubt that 'being disrespectful to Manchester bomb victims' or 'cheering executions and heads in a basket' would constitute an act of terrorism. Is being a member of ISIS an act of treason? The only thing she did was to leave the UK for a country that was on the Foreign Office 'don't visit' list. Any trial could collapse within days and the press would be all over Javid for allowing her to walk free. It's a no-win for the government, but it would be worse if she was brought back but couldn't be successfully prosecuted.

 

[Grassman]

If you are not trolling or a WUM ,you are either very good at playing Devils advocate, or you are a bit of a terrorist sympathiser.

You seem far too worried about someone that joined an evil terrorist organisation.

And he’s not the only one, it seems. There are millions of people in this world deserving of our help - Asia Bibi for starters, currently trying to stay under cover and not get lynched by the fascist Islamist mobs in Pakistan for being a Christian.But no, the only person loads of people are getting worked up about is an unrepentant Islamist nut job, who, as I’ve said before, rushed off to join the caliphate after it had beheaded two British aid workers. Truly astonishing. As for them shouting out about racism - Islam is a religion, not a race. I say actually the racism is the other way, if she was a white neo-Nazi who had done the same thing for a Nazi caliphate, there’s no way these same people would want her back. the UK we currently have an anti-Semitism crisis, so why are we falling over ourselves to let another anti-Semite back?

 

[papajaff]

Why are we scared of a 19 year old, who isn't Joan of Arc, in this day and age. Apart from Daliy Mail readers who is worried by this girl?

No one is scared of her. But she has forfeited her right to live amongst us. As Easy said, let her rot in Syria.

Now you are either a troll, an attention seeker or a terrorist sympathiser. I hope not the latter. Just a silly troll I believe.

 

[carlzeiss]

https://news.sky.com/story/is-bride-shamima-begum-i-am-willing-to-change-11644091

Islamic State bride Shamima Begum: I am willing to change

 

[Bold Seagull]

No one is scared of her. But she has forfeited her right to live amongst us. As Easy said, let her rot in Syria.

I agree, but only if our laws and international law allows us to do that. Democracy is a respect of the rule of law. No good fighting for our freedoms but then ignoring them when it suits us.

 

[Diablo]

No one is scared of her

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Not sure I would feel comfortable, say sitting on a bus or in a train with her. Maybe irrational but would be worried that she might be suicide bomber. would you ?

 

[Rodney Thomas]

The problems are likely to arise with this 'trial'. What will she be charged with and what evidence will be brought? I doubt that 'being disrespectful to Manchester bomb victims' or 'cheering executions and heads in a basket' would constitute an act of terrorism. Is being a member of ISIS an act of treason? The only thing she did was to leave the UK for a country that was on the Foreign Office 'don't visit' list. Any trial could collapse within days and the press would be all over Javid for allowing her to walk free. It's a no-win for the government, but it would be worse if she was brought back but couldn't be successfully prosecuted.

I agree with you but if she cannot be prosecuted (I am no expert but perhaps aiding and abetting/encouragement of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2006?) or sanctioned under the mental health act (heads in bins etc) then I still feel unconformable with letting Syria/Bangladesh deal with the problem. In the UK we (quite rightly most of the time) consider ourselves to be champions of freedom and democracy and have internationally championed these causes throughout history. This just seems like a delegation of duty in my opinion.

 

[papajaff]

I agree, but only if our laws and international law allows us to do that

I agree with that also. I fully expect her to eventually be allowed back. I hope I am wrong. But she has to face the consequences and be prosecuted and jailed. Would that happen?

 

[papajaff]

Not sure I would feel comfortable, say sitting on a bus or in a train with her. Maybe irrational but would be worried that she might be suicide bomber. would you ?

Good point but if she were allowed back she would be watched 24/7.

Best just forget her and keep her out.