Bring back jake NOW

[drew]

Surely now is the time to bring back Jake (assuming the first 28 days are up that is!).

Scored again tonight, and with Glen and Nicky both unfit surely we shouldn't be letting someone else benefit from him when we are crying out for a player with his energy, enthusiasm and love for the club.

Even to just have him on the bench and coming on for 15 minutes must be worth it.

Saturday's game was a classic example of where I looked at the bench and thought what have we got, and wished we had had Jake for that last half hour to inject some energy and run at a tired defence.

Surely we would be mad not to bring him back?? What is there to lose?

Energy, enthusiasm and love for the club. If that's all it takes then they could pick one or two from the crowd to play. Also, when exactly has he ever come on for the last half hour of a game and changed it for our benefit? I'd much rather see someone like Gary Hart on the bench than Robinson.

Tbh, if we bring jake back it really could go either way. He has the potential- you'd have to be a fuckwit to say he doesn't. If slade could get him motivated and he scores on a return for us, he could go on a run till the end of the season and get 10 goals. If he comes back, has a torrid time and some idiots of our "fans" get on his back, then thats his albion career over. At least he still possibly has a future with us if he continues to play well for Aldershot.

Potential! I thought he had that 6 years ago. Exactly how long are the JR groupies going to bang on about his potential, 5 years, 10 years? He has been on loan before and scored and still comes back a waste of space.

 

[Giraffe]

Energy, enthusiasm and love for the club. If that's all it takes then they could pick one or two from the crowd to play. Also, when exactly has he ever come on for the last half hour of a game and changed it for our benefit? I'd much rather see someone like Gary Hart on the bench than Robinson.



Potential! I thought he had that 6 years ago. Exactly how long are the JR groupies going to bang on about his potential, 5 years, 10 years? He has been on loan before and scored and still comes back a waste of space.

I accept that not everyone is in the "Jake fan club!" but looking at it reasonably, what exactly would we have to lose by bringing him back. Even if he only played ten minutes from now to the end of the season, if that ten minutes helped us get a point or three points it has to be worth it, surely. The only cost is his wages, which appears not to be an issue with the club.

So why would you not want him back. I agree re Hart by the way. Have them both on the bench though.

 

[Da Man Clay]

I accept that not everyone is in the "Jake fan club!" but looking at it reasonably, what exactly would we have to lose by bringing him back. Even if he only played ten minutes from now to the end of the season, if that ten minutes helped us get a point or three points it has to be worth it, surely. The only cost is his wages, which appears not to be an issue with the club.

So why would you not want him back. I agree re Hart by the way. Have them both on the bench though.

Because those 10 minutes could be used by someone better - as has been said earlier on he has to be given a run of starts to look any good. He's lightweigh and has been consistently poor for quite a while, I'd rather have Davies to come off the bench.Thankfully this debate will only go on for another month and then he'll be off.

You can't live off potential forever.....

 

[Silent Bob]

Potential! I thought he had that 6 years ago. Exactly how long are the JR groupies going to bang on about his potential, 5 years, 10 years? He has been on loan before and scored and still comes back a waste of space.

er, the only time he went out on loan before he came back and played an important part of our survival in the Championship.

 

[Giraffe]

Because those 10 minutes could be used by someone better - as has been said earlier on he has to be given a run of starts to look any good. He's lightweigh and has been consistently poor for quite a while, I'd rather have Davies to come off the bench.Thankfully this debate will only go on for another month and then he'll be off.

You can't live off potential forever.....

So you honestly think Kerry Mayo is a better option to have coming on late on in a game as he did against Tranmere? I bet the Tranmere defenders were shitting themselves when this pacey lad appeared

I actually don't think Craig Davies has shown a lot more than Jake. And I would back Jake to score more, but that's football for you, opinions vary.

 

[withdeanwombat]

Please let's just end this.

Robinson is playing at least two leagues above his standard at Aldershot.

Right now we cannot afford any deadlegs.

 

[drew]

er, the only time he went out on loan before he came back and played an important part of our survival in the Championship.

Can you be a bit more intelligent, sorry, I mean specific. Exactly how did he play and important part in our survival? According to club statistics, he scored one goal and no assists during the whole season. Looking at the last 5 games, he played a grand total of 107 minutes out of 450 (excluding injury time) and during his time on pitch we only scored 2 goals neither of which is he credited with an assist. In only one report does McGhee make reference to his contribution. How do you turn that into him playing an important part in our survival. Your implication is that he was more important than a lot of the other players and probably without him we would have gone down.

Still, it doesn't matter what I say or how Robinson has played ever since then, the JR Groupies have blind faith in his 'potential' and nothing will sway them from that.

I accept that not everyone is in the "Jake fan club!" but looking at it reasonably, what exactly would we have to lose by bringing him back. Even if he only played ten minutes from now to the end of the season, if that ten minutes helped us get a point or three points it has to be worth it, surely. The only cost is his wages, which appears not to be an issue with the club.

So why would you not want him back. I agree re Hart by the way. Have them both on the bench though.

I say again, when has Jake Robinson ever come of the bench and made an impression on a game! Please can you tell me which games these were. I admit I don't go to away games but as a STH I have seen almost every home game.

 

[Silent Bob]

Can you be a bit more intelligent, sorry, I mean specific. Exactly how did he play and important part in our survival? According to club statistics, he scored one goal and no assists during the whole season. Looking at the last 5 games, he played a grand total of 107 minutes out of 450 (excluding injury time) and during his time on pitch we only scored 2 goals neither of which is he credited with an assist. In only one report does McGhee make reference to his contribution. How do you turn that into him playing an important part in our survival. Your implication is that he was more important than a lot of the other players and probably without him we would have gone down.

er, no. It's not. I'm not implying anything. I said he played an important role in us staying up after being recalled from Aldershot. But then I tend to form my opinions on games of football rather than reading statistics from the official site, game of opinions though etc. Anyone who was at games like Leicester and Burnley will know the impact he made and how important that was on us picking up points in those games.

 

[Silent Bob]

I actually don't think Craig Davies has shown a lot more than Jake.

I agree with that. I think some people tend to think players from outside are automatically better, maybe because they've seen them less. I call it Stuart Fleetwood syndrome.

 

[Da Man Clay]

So you honestly think Kerry Mayo is a better option to have coming on late on in a game as he did against Tranmere? I bet the Tranmere defenders were shitting themselves when this pacey lad appeared

I actually don't think Craig Davies has shown a lot more than Jake. And I would back Jake to score more, but that's football for you, opinions vary.

Not really sure what you're on about with Mayo to be honest, he's a left back coming on for a Left back who's struggling for fitness. Not sure where Robinson would be much help there?

Davies has shown a lot more than Robinson, on the basis that he's (fairly) consistently scored league goals in his career.

 

[Giraffe]

er, no. It's not. I'm not implying anything. I said he played an important role in us staying up after being recalled from Aldershot. But then I tend to form my opinions on games of football rather than reading statistics from the official site, game of opinions though etc. Anyone who was at games like Leicester and Burnley will know the impact he made and how important that was on us picking up points in those games.

And I would add to that Shrewsbury away in the JPT.

There have been plenty of others at home, particularly last season when he came on for half an hour and it created more of a buzz and lifted the team, in a similar way Hart used to. I really can't see why anyone would object to one of our home grown players coming back to help the squad a bit when we are blatantly so short of attacking options at the moment. As I have said before, even if you are not Jake's greatest fan, which I am certainly not, you'd have to be mad to see that he gives us an option that we don't really have in the current fit squad.

 

[Giraffe]

Not really sure what you're on about with Mayo to be honest, he's a left back coming on for a Left back who's struggling for fitness. Not sure where Robinson would be much help there?

Davies has shown a lot more than Robinson, on the basis that he's (fairly) consistently scored league goals in his career.

Yep but Davies is already in the side. What I am saying is that Jake is worth having on the bench, so much more than Mayo is. You said you'd rather someone else came on for ten minutes than Jake. Just not sure who that would be at the moment, assuming like last Saturday we were level and needing to win the game.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Jake Robinson would be fighting for his future, and for his club. He's the man, and he should be back already. He scores goals and we're lacking that. Play him with Murray or Owusu, and he'd be a revelation. Micky's mistake will be Slade's triumph.

And Doug Loft will supply all the silky passes through the middle, allowing Dicker to do the donkey work.

 

[Giraffe]

Jake Robinson would be fighting for his future, and for his club. He's the man, and he should be back already. He scores goals and we're lacking that. Play him with Murray or Owusu, and he'd be a revelation. Micky's mistake will be Slade's triumph.

And Doug Loft will supply all the silky passes through the middle, allowing Dicker to do the donkey work.

I was there with you, and then you had to go and be silly didn't you!!

 

[Ninja Elephant]

I'm right about Jake, and I'm right about the Loft man.

 

[NF9]

I Agree recall him now and give him a chance to be a hero play him with Murray/Davies/Owusu
If murray isnt fit then i dont see how Davies and Owusu will work we need someone who will get in behind and not be afraid

 

[Giraffe]

I Agree recall him now and give him a chance to be a hero play him with Murray/Davies/Owusu
If murray isnt fit then i dont see how Davies and Owusu will work we need someone who will get in behind and not be afraid

Quite so.

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

Jake Robinson would be fighting for his future, and for his club. He's the man, and he should be back already. He scores goals and we're lacking that. Play him with Murray or Owusu, and he'd be a revelation. Micky's mistake will be Slade's triumph.

And Doug Loft will supply all the silky passes through the middle, allowing Dicker to do the donkey work.

When you say he scores goals do you mean the occasional goal, because looking at his stats that is the only conclusion you can draw. He has not been and never will be prolific at this level, he is far too lightweight.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Give him a chance and he will score goals. Play him up front with an effective striker, and he'll do wonders. Just ask Aldershot fans, they know the truth.

He partnered Forster for the one game he's started for us this season, that was never going to work. If he plays up front with Murray or Davies or Owusu, he'd be the missing link between midfield and attack, and he'll chip in with a few. He played up front against Huddersfield away a few years ago and scored a hattrick. Well then...

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

How many goals has he scored for Aldershot? 3 I think, hardly prolific at a lower level, and I for one would not sacrifice Forster just to accomadate Robinson. His level is probably league 2 so if and when we down then he might be worth another years contract, however, if Murray/Forster and Davies stay then he will still be fourth choice.