[Albion] Brighton's Moneyball Window

[Bozza]

Interesting article:

"If exploiting inefficiencies is the motto of a real Moneyball team, then Brighton’s summer transfer window was as Moneyball as it gets. One such inefficiency is the clamour for Premier League experience. Theory goes that a player who has already performed for one team in the league is more likely to replicate that than if he came from another league. While Championship or Austrian Bundesliga players are indeed likely to perform less well than in the Premier League, this effect is often as unpredictable as it is intuitive."

"Brighton are uninterested in the lack of value in the domestic market, and have actively bought from the European market where there is a higher bang for your buck. According to Transfermarkt, Swansea City have spent roughly £45million this window, receiving three first team players permanently and two on loan. Brighton, however, have only spent roughly £42million, but have signed eight first-team players on permanent deals, as well as taking two players on loan."

All of it here >>> https://whisp.rs/2eTzC95

 

[Simontheseagull]

I like the dig at Paul Merson in the article.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Interesting article:

"If exploiting inefficiencies is the motto of a real Moneyball team, then Brighton’s summer transfer window was as Moneyball as it gets. One such inefficiency is the clamour for Premier League experience. Theory goes that a player who has already performed for one team in the league is more likely to replicate that than if he came from another league. While Championship or Austrian Bundesliga players are indeed likely to perform less well than in the Premier League, this effect is often as unpredictable as it is intuitive."

"Brighton are uninterested in the lack of value in the domestic market, and have actively bought from the European market where there is a higher bang for your buck. According to Transfermarkt, Swansea City have spent roughly £45million this window, receiving three first team players permanently and two on loan. Brighton, however, have only spent roughly £42million, but have signed eight first-team players on permanent deals, as well as taking two players on loan."

All of it here >>> https://whisp.rs/2eTzC95

Friday's team sheet?

An interesting article to read.
A positive view on the Albion, let down by a mention of the lush, that is Paul Merson.
I like the way it describes the Albion as not being scared to venture beyond our shores to purchase European talent, not be held to ransom in the UK market.

 

[Stat Brother]

The club approach isn't 'moneyball' as per the A's, it's just simple economics.

Every step of the way. the club has lead us to believe Tony has been priced out of the relevant market, it found itself in.
So the club has had to look elsewhere, in locations where the market is on a par with the Albion's buying expectations.

 

[Rogero]

I like it. We are different.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Will have to get the book. Sounds very interesting.

 

[wallyback]

The club approach isn't 'moneyball' as per the A's, it's just simple economics.

Every step of the way. the club has lead us to believe Tony has been priced out of the relevant market, it found itself in.
So the club has had to look elsewhere, in locations where the market is on a par with the Albion's buying expectations.

The Acquisition of Groß looks perfect MoneyBall, with his creative stats

 

[AmexRuislip]

I like it. We are different.

This.
Albion are different, have bucked the trend, not followed in any set football club pattern.
Fan owning and running the club, not afraid to make hard decisions.
We would be pretty boring if we stuck to a predictable plan.

 

[Triggaaar]

The Acquisition of Groß looks perfect MoneyBall, with his creative stats

How about Ryan? I don't know the going rate of keepers, but was surprised how expensive he was.

 

[Triggaaar]

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Friday's team sheet?

Dropping March?

 

[AmexRuislip]

Dropping March?

A hard decision: yes for his lack of crosses on Saturday, but no for the great tracking back.
Mr Izquierdo has to have his chance sometime

 

[1066familyman]

This.
Albion are different, have bucked the trend, not followed in any set football club pattern.
Fan owning and running the club, not afraid to gamble.
We would be pretty boring if we stuck to a predictable plan.

Corrected for you.

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

The club approach isn't 'moneyball' as per the A's, it's just simple economics.

Every step of the way. the club has lead us to believe Tony has been priced out of the relevant market, it found itself in.
So the club has had to look elsewhere, in locations where the market is on a par with the Albion's buying expectations.

I'm sure that I've read elsewhere that this ( Moneyball or similar ) is exactly the approach Albion take when looking at possible signings. If I recall it's along the same lines as Tony's business model for placing football bets using stats and alogrithms.

 

[Springal]

A hard decision: yes for his lack of crosses on Saturday, but no for the great tracking back.
Mr Izquierdo has to have his chance sometime

Is Mr Izquierdo any good defensively do we know ? I thought March and Suttner linked up well on Saturday

 

[Triggaaar]

Mr Izquierdo has to have his chance sometime

He does. Played well in his first 10 minutes and cost enough that our recruitment team must have expectations. Can he play alongside March if Knocky plays less well away from home? Or would he be better coming on after 65 minutes for now?

 

[KZNSeagull]

The club approach isn't 'moneyball' as per the A's, it's just simple economics.

Every step of the way. the club has lead us to believe Tony has been priced out of the relevant market, it found itself in.
So the club has had to look elsewhere, in locations where the market is on a par with the Albion's buying expectations.

You can call it economics if you like, but it certainly isn't simple. It is about getting the best value out of your budget by using Star lizards analytics to find the bargain buys. This is not 12 rolls of toilet roll type bargains that your fingers may or may not go through when wiping, this is about finding better players than those available in the UK at a fraction of the price. Not a simple thing to do at all.

Most obvious example is AK.

 

[Stat Brother]

The Acquisition of Groß looks perfect MoneyBall, with his creative stats

But why were the club scratching around the bottom of the Bundesliga?

MoneyBall isn't just 'getting a player cheap'.
It's all about overlooking the weaknesses that causes players to fail elsewhere, while noting their 'hidden' strengths and how those strengths can be developed and become compatible along side similar team mates.

Gross doesn't have weaknesses that caused him to be given up on, his only weakness was he played for an unfashionable side playing at the wrong end of a league reliant on 2 teams.

 

[Triggaaar]

Is Mr Izquierdo any good defensively do we know ?

We don't know much, but in the 10 minutes against Watford he used great pace to track back and get a challenge in, so I'd say yes, probably.

 

[Stat Brother]

You can call it economics if you like, but it certainly isn't simple. It is about getting the best value out of your budget by using Star lizards analytics to find the bargain buys. This is not 12 rolls of toilet roll type bargains that your fingers may or may not go through when wiping, this is about finding better players than those available in the UK at a fraction of the price. Not a simple thing to do at all.

Most obvious example is AK.

Oh of course not, it's incredibly difficult, because of all the unknowns, hence the 'easy' option is spending more on a been there don't that, player.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

But why were the club scratching around the bottom of the Bundesliga?

MoneyBall isn't just 'getting a player cheap'.
It's all about overlooking the weaknesses that causes players to fail elsewhere, while noting their 'hidden' strengths and how those strengths can be developed and become compatible along side similar team mates.

Gross doesn't have weaknesses that caused him to be given up on, his only weakness was he played for an unfashionable side playing at the wrong end of a league reliant on 2 teams.

You've given a very narrow definition of a "Moneyball" influenced approach...

With Tony Bloom in charge it would be very surprising if Albion were not unusually good at evaluating players' real worth and shrewd recruitment from the international marketplace.