[Albion] Brighton v USG

[Not Andy Naylor]

What are people picking up with Maupay that I did not see? He reacted to a bad challenge (which reports say Groß also took up with the referee at the end) and played with more intensity probably owing to the fact he knows more competition has just arrived for a starting slot.

Thought he looked sharp and certainly more impressive than some of the other attacking options on display in the two halves.

Gross was sticking up for Maupay and having a good go at referee Keith Stroud for not picking up the initial challenge when, as he said, the impact was loud enough to be heard in Shoreham. I think if Stroud had seen clearly what le petit shithouse did after the challenge, which looked like a stamp to me, we might have had a red card.

 

[brighton_tom]

So off to portugal now then... is it just the one friendly game organised within that?

 

[Springal]

Is Maupay the new Ashley Barnes then ? When do we start booing him

 

[Eric the meek]

Having watched the game now, I agree with some of these statements.

Undav is a no for me though. I believe the club initiated talks to terminate his contract.

Also think it is a bit lazy and indecisive to need another 45 minutes of glorified training session to make a definite call on Kozlowski. I'd make him captain.

Some reflection on some of the others:

Cucurella - no. Think TB cried a little bit in the baththub in the evening as he had to scratch a couple of zeroes from the demanded fee. [MENTION=2095]Commander[/MENTION] or whatever his name is will probably be here to confirm.
Dunk - jury's out. Need to watch a couple of still photographies from the training sessions. Will confirm if he is a capable footballer or not once I've bothered.
Welbeck - no. Will struggle to make the 25 man squad and a good guess is that he will playing with Haydon Roberts in Derby County this season.

Did anyone notice how Ross Sykes played? The reason I ask is this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/18855872/brighton-union-sykes-accrington-transfer/

 

[BN9 BHA]

Did anyone notice how Ross Sykes played? The reason I ask is this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/18855872/brighton-union-sykes-accrington-transfer/

Was he the player that had a run in with Maupay?

 

[GT49er]

Did anyone notice how Ross Sykes played? The reason I ask is this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/18855872/brighton-union-sykes-accrington-transfer/

Well, Maupay for one won't be giving him a warm welcome, if he comes! Don't think he will - lazy journo syndrome, I suspect. 'Gone to USG, so must be being lined up by Brighton; good clickbait, so let's print it'.

Think about it - he's signed for USG apparantly with a sell on clause; if we were really interested surely we would have paid the £250K ourselves and loaned him to USG.

 

[Eric the meek]

Was he the player that had a run in with Maupay?

Yes, at 88 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc35yzORTJw

 

[Not Spanish Dave]

The judgement you made is that we should not judge players on only 45 minutes of play.

In that case, why did Potter give all his players a maximum of 45 minutes?

What is the minimum number of minutes you can play before a player can be judged?

Is it 57?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Well, Maupay for one won't be giving him a warm welcome, if he comes! Don't think he will - lazy journo syndrome, I suspect. 'Gone to USG, so must be being lined up by Brighton; good clickbait, so let's print it'.

Think about it - he's signed for USG apparantly with a sell on clause; if we were really interested surely we would have paid the £250K ourselves and loaned him to USG.

Exactly, though it's Alan Nixon and The Sun so hardly a surprise it's a bit convoluted.

 

[rogersix]

Great to see disagreements about players back …beats the diet of political stuff over the last month or so

it is! but you must admit, the close season has flown by, with the court jester treating us to his big finale!

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Your first question reveals that you didn't understand the nuances in my previous post. I was talking about the club. Not individual fans who don't have the resources of the club. If you were talking about the club, then I would agree with you. Having said that, fans have a voice and are entitled to hold and voice opinions. After all, that is what this forum is all about.

The second question on Enciso also reveals we are talking at cross-purposes. Players are judged the whole time. Every minute of every match. The stats packs deliver a wealth of data which Tony Bloom, through Starlizard, seems expert at deciphering. Fans such as you and I, only get the odd fleeting glimpse at that data. But that doesn't mean our opinions or judgements are invalid.

Note that you finish up agreeing with a judgement about Maupay - based on his 45 minutes on the pitch.

You need to go back to your first post and then re-read, that is what I thought we were discussing ��.

Of course the fans are entitled to opinions, the point is to pass judgment on new players after 45 mins, IMO is just silly…..
I agree about the forum as well, which is why we are discussing what I consider a snap judgement based on 45 mins.

If you work for the club and see the players every day, then of course that is different, but you still decide over a period of time.

Maupay is not a new player and was not highlighted in your original post. I think we all know his merits and weaknesses by now.

 

[Eric the meek]

You need to go back to your first post and then re-read, that is what I thought we were discussing ��.

Of course the fans are entitled to opinions, the point is to pass judgment on new players after 45 mins, IMO is just silly…..
I agree about the forum as well, which is why we are discussing what I consider a snap judgement based on 45 mins.

If you work for the club and see the players every day, then of course that is different, but you still decide over a period of time.

Maupay is not a new player and was not highlighted in your original post. I think we all know his merits and weaknesses by now.

I've re-read my original post and I stand by it.

'the point is to pass judgment on new players after 45 mins, IMO is just silly'

But you did exactly that on the Enciso thread ! You passed your own judgement, while agreeing with another contributor's judgements.

I should add that I completely agree with your judgements.

 

[Justice]

I've re-read my original post and I stand by it.

'the point is to pass judgment on new players after 45 mins, IMO is just silly'

But you did exactly that on the Enciso thread ! You passed your own judgement, while agreeing with another contributor's judgements.

I should add that I completely agree with your judgements.

Double standards on NSC? I don’t believe it

 

[The Fits]

My biggest take away from it all is- haven’t we got a huge squad?

 

[BNthree]

The highlights are the official club YouTube and are less than 2 minutes long. That’s with several moments being repeated in slow motion so I can only assume it was an uneventful game!


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[One Teddy Maybank]

I've re-read my original post and I stand by it.

'the point is to pass judgment on new players after 45 mins, IMO is just silly'

But you did exactly that on the Enciso thread ! You passed your own judgement, while agreeing with another contributor's judgements.

I should add that I completely agree with your judgements.

Ok, then I hope you are right - I and possibly the majority would say it’s too early to judge .

Re the other thread, I agreed with the post saying he looked promising, which he does. I Haven’t definitively said he will be a success

I also raised a similar player who many on NSC rated initially but actually IMO wasn’t great.

He may be crap from now on. (Let’s hope not).

 

[LamieRobertson]

it is! but you must admit, the close season has flown by, with the court jester treating us to his big finale!

Yes I would agree it’s flown by

 

[Eric the meek]

Ok, then I hope you are right - I and possibly the majority would say it’s too early to judge ��.

Re the other thread, I agreed with the post saying he looked promising, which he does. I Haven’t definitively said he will be a success ��

I also raised a similar player who many on NSC rated initially but actually IMO wasn’t great.

He may be crap from now on. (Let’s hope not).

Indeed. I thought Enciso turned in a very creditable performance, and was better than I expected. I thought he would get knocked off the ball more. This could still happen in the PL of course.

 

[Swansman]

Well, Maupay for one won't be giving him a warm welcome, if he comes! Don't think he will - lazy journo syndrome, I suspect. 'Gone to USG, so must be being lined up by Brighton; good clickbait, so let's print it'.

Think about it - he's signed for USG apparantly with a sell on clause; if we were really interested surely we would have paid the £250K ourselves and loaned him to USG.

Well, having him sign for USG immediatly instead keeps down the foreign loan-quota.

Agree a bit much is read into it though. Sure, if he performs really well, Brighton would obviously be the most likely destination in the PL, but the main reason he signed for USG was probably because they need him rather than some complicated, wonky long-term Albion development project.

My biggest take away from it all is- haven’t we got a huge squad?

Yup, it is gigantic and plenty of players will be off before the season starts.

Karbo, Connolly, Andone, Duffy, Östigård, Richards, Clarke, Sima and Zeqiri are probably off before the season starts. Maybe loans for Offiah and Sarmiento, though GP appears to think they're pretty close to ready.

 

[GT49er]

Well, having him sign for USG immediatly instead keeps down the foreign loan-quota.

Irrelevant. We can have eight (or is it seven now?) loans abroad anyway, and U21s are not included. Having him on loan at USG (if we wanted to) wouldn't affect our plans at all. Even Sima, off to Angers, wasn't 21 until June so still qualifies as an U21.

Of course a lot is 'read into it' - it's the bloody S*n ,making up 2+2=7.5 bollox - that's what I said!