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Brighton..UK City of Culture??









fataddick

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Feb 6, 2004
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The seaside.
You what?!

The best three areas in the UK for real ale are (in my view, and I'm urarguably correct):

1. Around Dereham Road, Norwich
2. Kelham Island, Sheffield
3. Borough Market, London

If it makes you any happier, Around Derby Station is probably 4th or 5th.
 




DerbyGull

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Mar 5, 2008
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Notts
The best three areas in the UK for real ale are (in my view, and I'm urarguably correct):

1. Around Dereham Road, Norwich
2. Kelham Island, Sheffield
3. Borough Market, London

If it makes you any happier, Around Derby Station is probably 4th or 5th.

haha you're probably correct, my only experiences of real ale really being Brighton, North Devon and Derby+Notts. But i would of thought mids would make the top 3, yorkshire is obviously a big one and i've sampled some manc ones, marble brewery being a nice one. Headless brewery is a very good one, better than the bruswick i would say.
 




house your seagull

Train à Grande Vitesse
Jul 7, 2004
2,693
Manchester
i'm not sure what the situation is in manchester, but what i think he was getting at is that the cost of living in brighton is pretty damn high when you compare it to the relatively low wages on offer within the city

ditto manchester, if you want to live in a nice-ish bit, which is much like brighton as i was checking house prices at the weekend when i was down.
 


DerbyGull

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Mar 5, 2008
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The point is though Brighton is expensive and also claims to be amazing.

Manchester is what it is, pretends to be nothing else and is cheap to live in.

Brighton is pretty special in comparison to other (landlocked) cities (although it's sports facilities are pants-though thats about to change), it's liberal attitudes, the beach etc, i wouldn't say it's amazing, but pretty unique
 


The Spanish

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Aug 12, 2008
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Brighton is pretty special in comparison to other (landlocked) cities (although it's sports facilities are pants-though thats about to change), it's liberal attitudes, the beach etc, i wouldn't say it's amazing, but pretty unique

most important british cities arent landlocked, or are port cities, brighton is hardly unique in being by the sea in britain to say the least.

f***ing hell is there no end to this delusion. are we saying now that before Prinny no one in the british isles had thought of settling close to the water, to perhaps create the worlds largest empire or some of the worlds great ports? thank god for idiotic aristocrats or we would be f***ed.
 




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If culture means poncing through North Laine eating a gluten free flapjack and and making wild gesticulated observations about a shop that sells vegetarian shoes, then Brighton should be UK City of Culture every year.However if Culture is meant to represent art (and I don't mean a few crusty's on Muesli Mountain with their etch a sketch once a year) , scholarly pursuits and architecture. Then Norwich or even Plymouth is far more likely. Is Mears going to start a Culture Park filled with painting by numbers exhibits of local celebrities or forged letters from Phoebe Hessel?
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
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I didn't realise that about Manchester, I stand corrected. Perhaps a better example may be say, Sheffield. I have several friends there one of whom rents a 2 bedroomed house, In great condition, upstairs and downstairs toilets, Driveway, garden , huge kitchen in a nice area just outside city centre for the sum of £425 a month.

I have been to Sheffield a few times and it is a great city. Nice pubs, lively atmosphere, great suburbs, plenty of good architecture and money being spent on it's attractions and residents. Great tram system and cheap prices in bars and clubs.

It doesn't try to be the trendiest place in Christendom, just quietly gets on with improvements and giving good value to visitors and residents.

Something about Brighton keeps me here and I certainly don't hate the place but will more than likely move away in the next 2 years.
 


The Spanish

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What amazes me is how many apparent locals buy into the bullshit. city this city that cosmopolitan f***ing hell a few indie bands and the fact that no one minds benders does not make it f***ing New York.

if people claim to love the place so much, why do they have to constantly pretend its something it isnt?
 




Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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I didn't realise that about Manchester, I stand corrected. Perhaps a better example may be say, Sheffield. I have several friends there one of whom rents a 2 bedroomed house, In great condition, upstairs and downstairs toilets, Driveway, garden , huge kitchen in a nice area just outside city centre for the sum of £425 a month.

I have been to Sheffield a few times and it is a great city. Nice pubs, lively atmosphere, great suburbs, plenty of good architecture and money being spent on it's attractions and residents. Great tram system and cheap prices in bars and clubs.

It doesn't try to be the trendiest place in Christendom, just quietly gets on with improvements and giving good value to visitors and residents.

Something about Brighton keeps me here and I certainly don't hate the place but will more than likely move away in the next 2 years.

Sheffield is a town I visit regularly for work and, whilst I agree in the main with what you say, when you go into any pubs that are not student/trendy efforts, the locals are - without doubt- the most racist, ignorant malcontents on earth. They seem to hate the yard. I have yet to speak to a single sheffield working class man with anything positive to say about it.

The last visit included a two hour discourse in a beer garden in the city centre between a bunch of the locals bemoaninfg the drains/trams/lack of cobblestones/pakis,niggers and their ways, fat birds and shit beer. Its just DULL.

Even the bugle was rubbish.
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
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Yes, agreed, but you are gonna get that in most Northern towns. Brighton has it's own brand of annoying folks, idiots walking around on stilts, pikeys selling tat on the street, every idiot pretending they are a DJ and northern towns have their bigots.
 


house your seagull

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Jul 7, 2004
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Manchester
What amazes me is how many apparent locals buy into the bullshit. city this city that cosmopolitan f***ing hell a few indie bands and the fact that no one minds benders does not make it f***ing New York.

if people claim to love the place so much, why do they have to constantly pretend its something it isnt?

i've heard sheffield is nice
 




Questions

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The Spanish

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i've heard sheffield is nice

I didnt know it was a Niceness Competition. In that case I vote Ditchling.

I personally think Sheffield is a khazi. You are not getting it, its this relentless bullshit about culture and being 'cosmopolitan' that gets on my tits. About 10 black people live in Brighton. There are NO other communities of any size apart from southern white British (I include crusties in that).

Preston f***ing Street is about as exotic as it gets. Why dont people just admit it instead of this mental Emperors New Clothes rubbish.

Having loads of flyers for studenty bands knocking about and the North Laine do not make it a cultural hub. Yes it does a hell of a lot better than most British towns, of course, its a f***ing HOLIDAY RESORT. Its bound to have good entertainment.

Its not a major British city on a par with the big boys like Glasgow Manchester or Liverpool. Please lets stop the pretending its cringy.
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
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If the street entertainers in Brighton looke dmore like this...

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And less like this...

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I would enjoy the Minge Festival a lot more.
 


Perkino

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Dec 11, 2009
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I wouldn't say Brighton was a city of Culture....

A person who is cultured would have been to exotic places, eaten posh food and have a wealth of needless knowledge.

Brighton is more a city of diversity......

Weirdo's of all sorts everywhere.

When you 15 its cool to have pink hair and face peircings but thats not the sort of girl your mother wants you to bring home. you can hardly imagine the parents calling her cultured
 




'Urban South Hampshire'

Can't even bring themselves to mention... Portsmouth. :sick:

I remember, years ago, Hampshire County Council trying to develop a transport strategy for "South Hampshire" - ie Portsmouth AND Southampton.

I think they got it just about right when they came up with the name South Hampshire Integrated Transport Strategy ... SHITS.
 


Tony Towner's Fridge

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Aug 22, 2003
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GLASGOW,SCOTLAND,UK
Derry,Sheffield and Birmingham? They really are having a larffffff

Derry- Graffitti and slum city.
Sheffield- Graffitti and slum city.
Birmingham -Graffitti and slum city.

at least Norwich has a decent 'Lanes'esque' City Centre and fab Cathedral.

Why don't they just come clean and rename it as

City 'with so much mould and rotting detritus , we need to call it Culture' of Culture

TNBA

TTF
 


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