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Hatterlovesbrighton

something clever
Jul 28, 2003
4,543
Not Luton! Thank God
Zavvi closed because they were consisitiently £1/2 more expensive than HMV. Add to that the general pressure forced by the internet and supermarkets (tho i think the internet is the bigger factor) and you are in trouble.

I wonder if they would let them convert that Borders into a bar or restaurant.
 






Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Regarding Zavvi, I used to work for Virgin and basically my understanding of what happened was that Branson knew that Virgin music shops were gonna lose out to the download market and was going to get rid of all the stores so he offered to hand them over in a deal to people who were soon to retire from Virgin companies as part of a pension package, the idea being that the shops had a short life left but they could make as much money as possible out of them before it went tits up. The name change was a part of the deal to ensure it was a different company that went under and Virgin would not be associated with a shop that went under.

Everyone's a winner, the soon to be retired folks got a couple of years worth of profit and Virgin was not associated with a shop that went under which would undermine confidence in their other brands on the market.

This was our understanding at the time, this is info that was filtered down to our lowly level though so how much of it is the truth I will never know.
 














KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,099
Wolsingham, County Durham
Bookstores will disappear. You can get most for a fraction of the original price via Amazon and so on and the digital age of books is upon us. Sad.

Dont think they will, we will just have to adapt (yes I own 2 bookshops).

We already have to decide whether to stock the big releases or not. eg the last Harry Potter - the supermarkets here were selling it for R50 less than we could buy it for wholesale!! Whilst we sold some copies, we did not sell a huge number. Same goes for the latest Dan Brown.

You may find though that your choice of book gets limited a bit. Supermarkets and Amazon are pushing the price of books down to silly levels in the UK, which is good for the consumer but is forcing a lot of the smaller, specialist publishers to close.

Also, I cannot see anyone teaching their child to read from a digital book reader. 25% of all my sales are kids books, believe it or not, and it is great to see kids coming into the shops and sitting on the floor looking at books. But we will have to see what happens - adapt or die!
 


smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,376
On the ocean wave
I think turning Borders & Zavvi into Bars/Restaurants/Clubs would definitely work, but Churchill Sq/Brighton Council probably wouldn't be keen.
Georges, I'd love to see someone like Selfidges or Harvey Nic's do something with the space & bring some class to a class town that is turning a bit Poundstretcher.
 












Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Dont think they will, we will just have to adapt (yes I own 2 bookshops).

We already have to decide whether to stock the big releases or not. eg the last Harry Potter - the supermarkets here were selling it for R50 less than we could buy it for wholesale!! Whilst we sold some copies, we did not sell a huge number. Same goes for the latest Dan Brown.

You may find though that your choice of book gets limited a bit. Supermarkets and Amazon are pushing the price of books down to silly levels in the UK, which is good for the consumer but is forcing a lot of the smaller, specialist publishers to close.

Also, I cannot see anyone teaching their child to read from a digital book reader. 25% of all my sales are kids books, believe it or not, and it is great to see kids coming into the shops and sitting on the floor looking at books. But we will have to see what happens - adapt or die!

That's good to hear!

I was reading this yesterday and it doesn't bode well for my fledgling writing career.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/jan/03/books-club-richard-judy-millionaires

"A novelist, even a well-reviewed one, may sell just a couple of thousand books."
 


Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
Ah... the abuse starts so quickly and easily. Doesn't take much.

In fact, it doesn't take anything.

oooh...this could be good.

At least a spat between you two will probably be spelled correctly and, more or less, grammatically acceptable.

ding-ding.
 




Lady Whistledown

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
47,641
Sussex Stationers are struggling because they are crap, with a very poor range of books compared to other retailers, and little real focus on what their unique selling point should be.

If I buy books, I'll either do it online or go to Waterstones.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Argus reported fairly recently that Brighton was actually doing relatively well during the recession compared to other towns & cities, the large number of independent & specialist shops meaning there are fewer empty premises than other similar places.
 








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