[Brighton] Brighton & Hove street map.

[AmexRuislip]

After some help here.
I found this old street map in a National Trust bookshop, in Herefordshire of all places.
Just intrigued if any boffins on here, might know how old it might be, obviously pre Apri 1997.
Thanks

 

[Easy 10]

Shirley the publication date is on the inlay somewhere ?

 

[GM98]

After decimalisation 15 February 1971

 

[AmexRuislip]

Shirley the publication date is on the inlay somewhere ?

Have looked all over, no date!

 

[B-right-on]

15p. Blimey. Must be 80s at that price.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Goldstone junior school, shown on the map below Conway Street, closed in 1974.

 

[Eeyore]

If you could post a picture of the Queen's Park area I could probably tell you.

 

[zefarelly]

I'd say early mid 70's, very similar to the Shoreham town guide with map I have circa '69.

A few years ago I picked up high quality A1 prints from a charity shop which were ex planning authority, so very accurate and detailed, lots of Hove, none of Goldstone, but I did find a few with friends houses on, so I bought them, great house poster/art.

As trained draughtsman, I love maps, especially old ones, up there with high quality illustrations, technical art. The best stuff is up there with good paintings To my eye

 

[AmexRuislip]

If you could post a picture of the Queen's Park area I could probably tell you.

 

[Becktheman]

The map is before 1985 as the Hove Goods Yard was being demolished in 1984.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890...ec9-oa99V5-odNbM4-oceXLr-nUwjMu-oacNa9-obSS8F

https://www.google.com/search?q=pic...#imgdii=9tj3qEQordHpiM:&imgrc=FrhRczHxwc629M:

 

[Eeyore]

View attachment 115148

Okay.

The Xavarian College is still marked on the map with no developments indicated in its boundaries.

Attree Drive (not shown) is referenced in street directories as early as 1970. The earliest buildings on the old site are at least 1972.

Given that the price is in modern money, I reckon the map was put together in 1970/71 and released for sale sometime after February 1971.

That would make the map 2.20 in modern money.

 

[Nottseagull]

I still have the colour map from the same era. I think it's by Bartholomew's.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Okay.

The Xavarian College is still marked on the map with no developments indicated in its boundaries.

Attree Drive (not shown) is referenced in street directories as early as 1970. The earliest buildings on the old site are at least 1972.

Given that the price is in modern money, I reckon the map was put together in 1970/71 and released for sale sometime after February 1971.

That would make the map 2.20 in modern money.

Amazing stuff, thank you

 

[studio150]

Where's the little man to drop on the map to see the Street View?

 

[Barham's tash]

The map is before 1985 as the Hove Goods Yard was being demolished in 1984.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/31890...ec9-oa99V5-odNbM4-oceXLr-nUwjMu-oacNa9-obSS8F

https://www.google.com/search?q=pic...#imgdii=9tj3qEQordHpiM:&imgrc=FrhRczHxwc629M:

Cheers for that. Was going to ask when the goods yard went as my earliest memories of the area - 1986 - are only of the Shell(?) garage.

 

[Theatre of Trees]

I still have that map which I got in the 1970s. The 15p should make it post 1971 but this isn't always the case, as the the map may be older than the cover it is in, all Barnett's maps fold out from a cover which is glued onto one end. However, looking at the map itself, the inner arm of the Marina is completed which does post date 1971, as does the non-existance of the Kemp Town railway branch which was dismantled in the same year. Russell Street is still marked which means the Brighton Centre hadn't been started and that was built between 1975-76. Also the schools are still the pre 1975 designations: Varndean Boys and Girls; BHASVIC is a Grammar School; Blatchington Mill and Hove Park upper school are separate boys and girls schools. But then to confuse matters Brighton Locomotive Works are still marked as such and they were demolished in 1966 having closed in the late 1950s.

My rough estimate is post 1971 and pre 1975 and if I was to guess a particular year I'd probably plump for 1974.

 

[BN9 BHA]

View attachment 115148

Whitehawk at the bottom right corner of the map hasn't been developed from the old street layouts to what is there now.
I believe Hervey Road was one of the first roads to be demolished. A lad I went to school with in the late 70s told me his family were moved out of Hervey Rd. This was before 1978, but I'm not sure of the exact date. ( it's difficult to remember a conversation from that far back)
Looking at the My Brighton and Hove website, it says the redevelopment of the estate started in 1975.

 

[Boys 9d]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but may be of interest to those who love maps.

The National Library of Scotland has published online the 6 inch to the mile OS maps for Great Britain for the period approximately 1840 to 1950

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=10&lat=50.9439&lon=-0.3611&layers=102&b=1&point=50.8456,-0.1970

 

[Theatre of Trees]

For those who like historical maps:
Sussex Coast 1778-83:
http://www.envf.port.ac.uk/geo/research/historical/webmap/sussexmap/Yeakell_36.htm
East Sussex Tithe Maps 1836-45 - individual parishes:
https://apps.eastsussex.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/localandfamilyhistory/tithemaps/
Old large scale OS maps from 1870s onwards:
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/

 

[zefarelly]

Great stuff. Here's little ole Shoreham by the sea circa 1969 I think.