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The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,578
Shoreham Beach
Spoken like a true Corbynist and Momentum member, Labour is in a very sorry state at present it's a great pity. Peter Kyle will be next on the hit list.

He’s most certainly not a Corbynista and neither is he a Momentum member but I’m both. All things are relative but compared to the Tories, the Liberals and UKIP, the Labour Party is in great shape. Kyle is not next on the list and I should know, I’ve seen the list.
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,811
Valley of Hangleton
He’s most certainly not a Corbynista and neither is he a Momentum member but I’m both. All things are relative but compared to the Tories, the Liberals and UKIP, the Labour Party is in great shape. Kyle is not next on the list and I should know, I’ve seen the list.

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Wise words comrade, remember to keep the red flag flying!!
 










Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
He’s most certainly not a Corbynista and neither is he a Momentum member but I’m both. All things are relative but compared to the Tories, the Liberals and UKIP, the Labour Party is in great shape. Kyle is not next on the list and I should know, I’ve seen the list.

I'm glad to hear Kyle isn't on 'the list' as he's a very decent MP - hence why I voted for him despite being on the right wing of politics. Then again there shouldn't even be a list - if people have been voted into a position then it should be the voters that remove them not some internal party politics. The current B&H administration is rapidly looking as shambolic as the previous administration.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,829
Uffern
Labour is in a very sorry state at present it's a great pity.

How on earth is Labour in a sorry state? It has more members than the Tories, LDs, Greens and UKIP put together. Its membership is growing, led mainly by young members. That's in sharp contrast to the Conservatives, who won't even reveal their numbers, but is believed to be about 100/110k (a sharp fall from the 150k in 2013, the last figures released by the party) and is having trouble attracting young people to join the party.

The Labour Party also has a democratically elected leader, with a massive majority, in an election where all members had a vote. Compare that with the Tories whose leader was chosen by MPs, with no reference to the membership. Labour party members have an active role to play in choosing policy too, again in sharp contrast to the Conservatives.

If there's one political party that's in a sorry state, it's the Conservative one.
 


The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,578
Shoreham Beach
I'm glad to hear Kyle isn't on 'the list' as he's a very decent MP - hence why I voted for him despite being on the right wing of politics. Then again there shouldn't even be a list - if people have been voted into a position then it should be the voters that remove them not some internal party politics. The current B&H administration is rapidly looking as shambolic as the previous administration.

There isn’t ‘a list’. Although I think it’s fair to say some people should think about their position (although I don’t include Kyle in this). The party has changed, some faces don’t fit anymore but they seem unable to accept this. Warren is one of those. My CLP is the backwater of Shoreham and I’ve seen dirty tricks played by the Centerists/Blairites/Whatevs this week. Even though tiny numerically they are fighting to death.
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
19,811
Valley of Hangleton
Momentum 1 - 0 Right Wing Trolls.

I’m not right wing, I just don’t subscribe to your kind of politics so simply put in your weird blinkered world that’s how you label me, it’s hardly intellectual thinking comrade is it?

“They look like a bit of a rabble to me, but I don't think they are a problem for the Labour Party. They are not a party within a party. I just don’t think they're that effective".

Tom Watson’s views on Momentum.

Is he on the list that you have seen that isn’t a list?
 


The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,578
Shoreham Beach
I’m not right wing, I just don’t subscribe to your kind of politics so simply put in your weird blinkered world that’s how you label me, it’s hardly intellectual thinking comrade is it?

“They look like a bit of a rabble to me, but I don't think they are a problem for the Labour Party. They are not a party within a party. I just don’t think they're that effective".

Tom Watson’s views on Momentum.

Is he on the list that you have seen that isn’t a list?



Perhaps if you don’t want to be called a troll you should avoid trolling. Perhaps if you don’t want to be labelled right wing you should avoid comparing a democratic socialist with an insane dictator.

And if you are trying to demonstrate that Tom Watson lacks political judgement and acumen you won’t find any disagreement from me.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,811
Valley of Hangleton
Brighton & Hove City Council

Perhaps if you don’t want to be called a troll you should avoid trolling. Perhaps if you don’t want to be labelled right wing you should avoid comparing a democratic socialist with an insane dictator.

And if you are trying to demonstrate that Tom Watson lacks political judgement and acumen you won’t find any disagreement from me.

I’m comparing the ethos of momentum to KJ u not Corbyn, who for the record I have a little time for!
 






Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
19,811
Valley of Hangleton
What’s the difference between The Church of Scientology and Momentum?

One is a secular organisation who brainwash their members and want to covert everyone to their beliefs, the other is a tin pot religion that L Ron Hubbard set up!
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Spoken like a true Corbynist and Momentum member,

I'm neither. I'm not even a member of the party. So you got that wrong.

Labour is in a very sorry state at present it's a great pity. Peter Kyle will be next on the hit list.

Brighton & Hove Labour is in a sorry state, much of it the right-wing (incl. most Labour councillors) of the party's doing. The prevailing mood of the party is away from the stance of Brighton & Hove Labour councillors, and appears to be growing all the stronger nationally for it.
 






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