This is the point I was making earlier, I feel this is a really good experience, on a few levels, for your daughter.totally agree, and I have just spoken with my daughter who is leaving there now and told her as I often do, to listen to both sides as war has victims on both sides and sadly ultimately marches do not stop wars, only when one side has satisfied it's need/goal do wars usually stop. People/organisations will twist the truth to suit an agenda, I mentioned the green and red on the flyer and I thought that could be construed as just being about Palestine, when people from Israel were slaughtered in the homes and at a concert just because of their religion . She got it, I told her I wont be telling her off, and commend her as she sounded enthused by her first political/ justice/ peace march, and told her she must be open minded all the time, and accept any punishment thrown at her by school, it was her choice to leave and take part.
Far cry from my days at school and what followed after for a short period, until I wised up, so proud she is nothing like me at that age
US spelling. OooopsTwo footed. Great work.
Top class parenting!totally agree, and I have just spoken with my daughter who is leaving there now and told her as I often do, to listen to both sides as war has victims on both sides and sadly ultimately marches do not stop wars, only when one side has satisfied it's need/goal do wars usually stop. People/organisations will twist the truth to suit an agenda, I mentioned the green and red on the flyer and I thought that could be construed as just being about Palestine, when people from Israel were slaughtered in the homes and at a concert just because of their religion . She got it, I told her I wont be telling her off, and commend her as she sounded enthused by her first political/ justice/ peace march, and told her she must be open minded all the time, and accept any punishment thrown at her by school, it was her choice to leave and take part.
Far cry from my days at school and what followed after for a short period, until I wised up, so proud she is nothing like me at that age
How in God's name is a post asking for people not to turn this into a polarized debate trying to turn this into an anti-Israel/Hamas debate?You want to turn this into the anti-Israel/Hamas thread?
How very droll.
(And exactly why children should be marching for Peace rather than being drawn too deeply in favour of one over the other - adults can’t even seem to be able to discuss this without the risk of being divisive or getting passive aggressive with each other.)
I'm fairly sure some schoolchildren joined in.I must've missed the Brighton kids march for Ukraine or the genocide of the Uyghurs
I'm fairly sure some schoolchildren joined in.
Crowds gather for anti-war protest against invasion of Ukraine - recap
Event organisers are calling on Russian troops to leave Ukraine, while it also opposes any NATO expansionwww.sussexlive.co.uk
I and many of my friends thank Corbyn for bringing the Palestinian plight/occupation/deaths to the attention of more people.Agreed but Palestine support seems to more fashionable.
I blame Corbyn the trendsetter.
I and many of my friends thank Corbyn for bringing the Palestinian plight/occupation/deaths to the attention of more people.
He is/was courageous for bringing it up - just look at the backlash it brought.
Whilst yes a small element of people may join in without knowing more about the subject to call it fashionable is glib.
Fashionable?Agreed but Palestine support seems to more fashionable.
I blame Corbyn the trendsetter.
What a sad sanctimonious little rant to read. Especially as my post was asking the kids to consider all angles.Typically you did not read my post properly before launching into yet another one sided rant -
I said an anti-Israel-Hamas thread ie in opposition to the thread that is already running on this issue - you know, the one you no longer comment on because it doesn’t reflect your views perhaps?
You realise Corbyn was deliberately hampered by dealing with complaints by the right of the party who were eager for him to lose. They slowed up the response times deliberately. No ramifications for those involved - still active in the party.Corbyn isn't a paragon of virtue. He allowed antisemitism to pervade the LP and corruptly interfered in the supposedly independently process to assist antisemites.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism
Why's he courageous? Much of the media, social media, chatterati always align on the same side in Middle East wars, atrocities and politics.
Sadly low numbers.
Whilst entire schools will be emptied for this one.
That’s hilarious. So it’s ‘anti’ as in as in antipathy? Good grief man, you are desperately stretching believability here. And please do give me a breakdown of all the threads I’m reading, as you appear to know which ones I read and which I don’t. Then everyone will know what I care about and what I don’t.You are still not reading my posts properly - I am sure school kids are very sadly very aware of the atrocities carried out by Hamas on 7/10, they don’t need to have it drummed into them at school that terrorists do heinous things to other people.
I said ‘anti’ as in having an antipathy towards the ‘Hamas attacks Israel thread’ itself - which you have said you had and clearly to you have to me too based on your last remarks and on how you spoke to me previously on this issue - How can you bully someone into feeling compassion for the innocent victims of war - if someone does not have the humanity to care that over 5,000 children have been killed by Israeli bombs or won’t even allow a conversation on it unless that conversation must constantly keep reverting back to the original attack by Hamas then that person’s whataboutery is not worth arguing with in my book. So again you are incorrect. I take no position in this other than being against the extremism that we are seeing on both sides and extremely concerned for the 2 million people in Gaza.
How is this me presuming I know how you feel? I presumed nothing - you have made your feelings very clear on this and the other thread how you feel. All I have done on this thread is say that where school children demonstrating on their own is concerned, where unsupervised, marching for joint ‘Peace’, rather than against anti-semitism or against Islamophobia or ‘free Palestine’ is more prudent imo in light of how charged our society is with racial tensions at the moment but that is just an opinion not fact and people are fully entitled to disagree.
It is not me bullying people on this forum - I can assure you but I have been repeatedly bullied and baited by a small number of people for fact checking sweeping unfounded statements, pointing out racial stereotyping and bringing to light the devastating impact that Israel’s bombing is having on innocent people especially children in Gaza and, more broadly, those living under apartheid and occupation. So, no, I make NO EXCUSES for doing that.
You realise Corbyn was deliberately hampered by dealing with complaints by the right of the party who were eager for him to lose. They slowed up the response times deliberately. No ramifications for those involved - still active in the party.
Anti-Corbyn Labour officials worked to lose general election to oust leader, leaked dossier finds
Call for investigation into ‘possible misuse of funds’ by senior officials on party’s right wingwww.independent.co.uk
Unfortunately anti-semitism was weaponised against the party for political ends and continues to this day. Left wing Jews are being expelled by Starmer - some for their support for Palestine.
UK Labour Party accused of discrimination over expulsion of Jewish members
Richard Sanders reports on JVL’s letter to the Labour Party, which says that Jews were regularly investigated “for speech which…www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk
Excellent article of the weaponisation of anti-semitism with regard to Labour.
My intro to the Battle of Ideas debate on 'Antisemitism Today'
I was invited by Claire Fox to take part in this event. Here are my introductory remarks. I was alongside, among others, Melanie Phillips,...stephenlaw.blogspot.com
If you think the media was on the side of Palestinians all the time Corbyn was leader you are living in an alternate reality. One of (not all) the reasons he got such negative press was his stance. He went against the grain in being in a relative position of power and speaking out
Both parties receive funding from Israeli lobby groups. Were not yet on an American level of corruption (AIPAC) etc but Israeli influence is clear and worrying.
Two-fifths of Keir Starmer’s cabinet have been funded by pro-Israel lobbyists
As Labour refuses to join calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, Declassified reveals the extent to which the shadow cabinet, including Starmer himself, has been financed by a pro-Israel lobby group and an individual funder.www.declassifieduk.org
Israeli diplomat who plotted against MPs also set up political groups
Shai Masot is filmed covertly as he boasts about establishing several groups, at least one intended to influence Labour policywww.google.com
Anyway back to the thread. Dont want to derail further
.... heartening to see children involved in opposing the occupation and Apartheid. Granted some will not understand fully what they are marching for but shows awareness of the situation is at least growing.
I'm sorry, I haven't seen the news today, but do you have a source for any of these 'entirely empty schools ?'
*edit* Just had a look and even in the People's republic of Brighton and Hove, the Argus are reporting 'Dozens', whilst Brighton and Hove News are saying 'Scores', so I reckon that is a tiny percentage of the Brighton Festival Children's Parade, and an even tinier percentage of schools generally