I'm sure anybody who's dated a Policewoman could vouch for the delights of the Copper's Gap.
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[Brighton] Brighton and Hove c.1783
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I'm sure anybody who's dated a Policewoman could vouch for the delights of the Copper's Gap.
Great stuff
It fills a gap in Shoreham maps for me, the changing shape of the River.
looks like my old cottage by the Church is there, built 1730, and whilst not built on until later, Southdown Road and Rope Walk which bound the present Zefarelly Estate are clearly there.
It also clearly shows open water where all the modern developments are being built
It fills a gap in Shoreham maps for me, the changing shape of the River.
looks like my old cottage by the Church is there, built 1730, and whilst not built on until later, Southdown Road and Rope Walk which bound the present Zefarelly Estate are clearly there.
It also clearly shows open water where all the modern developments are being built
Theatre of Trees
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Great stuff
It fills a gap in Shoreham maps for me, the changing shape of the River.
looks like my old cottage by the Church is there, built 1730, and whilst not built on until later, Southdown Road and Rope Walk which bound the present Zefarelly Estate are clearly there.
It also clearly shows open water where all the modern developments are being built
Have you seen this one from 1698? Part of an admiralty survey for potential naval bases on the south coast.
You're stepping into a minefield with this one - there's no easy answer
There's a Black Lion in Black Lion St in 1455 but it closed at some point and re-opened (at a different address)
There was a Cricketers also in BLS that dates from 1547, but it was rebuilt in Victoria's reign
The Druid's Head building dates from the early 16th century but it didn't become a pub until 1830
The Pump House dates from 1776 and was used to pump sea water - it's not clear whether other drinks were available then
You choose the answer that you like
Theatre of Trees
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Seven Stars has been licensed since 1535 though rebuilt in the 19th century.
Fishbowl in East Street dates from 1658
King & Queen first opened in 1776 but was renovated in the 1930s.
I forgot about the K&Q - I didn't know about the 7 Stars and Fishbowl (although the latter is not a 17th century building
I think the Victory is pretty old too
But as to the original question: how many pubs in 1783 are stll pubs now and are in the same building - the answer is probably .. none
My old cottage was originally built as an extension to Swan Cottage next door . . .which was the Old Swan pub many ,many years ago . . .do I win £5 ?
TBH, most of central shoreham was a pub/bar/knocking shop until the early 1900's
some of it still is . . .probably.
TBH, most of central shoreham was a pub/bar/knocking shop until the early 1900's
some of it still is . . .probably.
Worried Man Blues
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Beacons!
Aahhhhhh.... A linking process across the Downs.
It was before the 14th June. I found a document online that was dated then and makes reference to some sort of retaliation.
(Although I have doubts about the arrow in the eye thingy)
Silverhatch
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Whiteing - the vulgar name for Withdean!
Fantastic piece of history
Where did the local born n bred squire live
Foredown Drive.
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This doesn't go as far back but another great site. O/S maps as far back as 1885 side by side with modern Satellite view:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sid...=56.00000&lon=-4.00000&layers=1&right=BingHyb
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sid...=56.00000&lon=-4.00000&layers=1&right=BingHyb
If the Cricketers dates from 1547, and cricket began - in the south east - in the middle of the 1500s.....could this be....the home of cricket?
Theatre of Trees
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If the Cricketers dates from 1547, and cricket began - in the south east - in the middle of the 1500s.....could this be....the home of cricket?
It became The Cricketers in 1790, it was previously known as The Last and Fishcart.
This is a great site, thanks for posting.
Pretty sure I saw The Last at the Vortex in 78, and have albums by both those bands.
Enough about Google street view.
v interesting, did this baker give rise to the Nevill district of Hove, where I live?
I wondered that too but I found out that Nevill is the family name of the Marquesses of Abergavenny, who owned the Manor of Blatchington from the 16th century onwards.
I suppose it is possible that the baker was related to that family. I find it odd that the death of a Brighton baker would merit an obituary in The Times.
The 1783 map gives a good indication of the terrain on which his ill fated journey took him and the diagram below based on an 1850s map gives an indication of which pub he might have stopped at at Copperas Gap. I wonder if it was the Halfway House Inn which was demolished in 2014...
Here is the wiki entry for the Marquess of Abergavenny which mentions the Nevill name...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Abergavenny
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