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Bridcutt oh dear.



mccraque

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Feb 24, 2009
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Maybe I'm in the minority - but both were good for us and I'd liked to have seen it work out for them both. Shame it ended on a sour note but both were instrumental for a couple of seasons - playing some of the best footy I've seen at the club in a long while. And we pulled in 5m for the pair...


So where is the issue?
 




withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
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Bridcutt's coming down. Buckley's coming down. Upson's coming down. Ulloa's coming down. Barnes is coming down. Ward is coming down. And if any of these escape, then Zamora's coming down.

Up the Albion !
 


Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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Bridcutt played the throughball which led to Sunderland hitting the post late in the game.

Unless there was something else going at the time (a protest?), I'm fairly sure that there were IRONIC cheers from Sunderland fans when Britcutt's ball reached its target.
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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Bridcutt was great for us and allowed Poyet's preferred system to work. He was great at reading the game, strong in the tackle and won a lot of headers for someone so short. People saying he wasn't great for us are re-writing history.

The guy won back to back player of the season for a very good reason, in teams with some great players.

Completely this. Those coming out now saying they never rated him are talking utter shit. He was head and shoulders our best player season after season - the lynchpin to our side and success. Just cos he left under a cloud and hasn't produced at Sunderland doesn't re-write history. His performances here were comfortably prem league standard. Such a consistent player too.
 


Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
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Sure Bridcutt left in a pretty awful manner but people here saying that they didn't rate him must've never seen him play. In the first two seasons at the Amex he was an 8/10 every single game. In those seasons you could count the bad games he had on one hand and still be left with a few fingers spare.

I'm with Pisshead
 




Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,010
East Wales
I know it's not mature or nice ( I must be weak and a bit snidey) but I can't bring myself to feeling anything other than great glee when I see anyone (especially GP) that rejected BHA come to grief. Whereas I'd be disappointed if Leo who left in the best of terms and never stopped working for the club didn't make good. :blush:
I wonder if they wish they'd stayed, even with their extra income.
I agree. It shouldn't feel personal when they leave, but it does. Loved Bridcutt and Buckley when they were here but felt a strong sense of betrayal at the way they left.

They should never come back.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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I think when Bridcutt was here he had creative players around him, so his lack of shots, goals, incisive passing was never a big deal. Nevertheless, it was evident and I always thought that a Prem class player needs to have more in his locker, so I'm not surprised he hasn't set the world alight.

Sunderland have a staggering lack of creativity, so totally the wrong side for him. He was totally better than Holla, JFC and was rightly MOM in the first leg at Selhurst in the play-offs.
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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I agree. It shouldn't feel personal when they leave, but it does. Loved Bridcutt and Buckley when they were here but felt a strong sense of betrayal at the way they left.

They should never come back.

I agree with you both but there's always a part of me that would love old players who were successful back. It's prob just cos I know their game well and what they could achieve. I was so disappointed the way Bridcutt left especially as I met him a few times including at the sponsors dinner sat next to him all night and I'm convinced he is / was a spot on lad. Very odd what happened.
 




perseus

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Jul 5, 2003
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I never got the bridcutt hype.....always thought what he did he did very, very well but it just wasn't condusive to winning football matches. He's been found out.
As for Barnes - he's an unusual player and in a funny kind of way I'm not surprised he's doing well. He just had something about him despite being only moderately talented.

Width of the post away for for me for Barnes* and he is still doing it, hitting the post when if he was really good he would have scored. (e.g. *width of the post away form beating Palace.)

When Vicente put the ball right on his feet, Barnes was good, nearly all of the time.

As for Sunderland, we saw them down here and that we not that good at all after Lee Cattermole went off. Good at fouling.
 
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Jimmy Grimble

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Bridcutt was very good for us. The only issues I had with him was his range of passing (which only really became apparent under OG) and the fact he didn't seem to perform as well against better sides in our league. I still thought he would have been able to establish himself as a steady player in a plodding Prem team.
 






Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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Completely this. Those coming out now saying they never rated him are talking utter shit. He was head and shoulders our best player season after season - the lynchpin to our side and success. Just cos he left under a cloud and hasn't produced at Sunderland doesn't re-write history. His performances here were comfortably prem league standard. Such a consistent player too.


How were his performances ' comfortably PL standard ' ?
The standard within the Championship is well below that of the top division. Its like saying a batsman who is piling up the runs in county cricket is showing 'test match form '
You only truly know how a player is going to perform at a higher level when he is at that level. Bridcutt looked good for us fetching and carrying from the back four. His lack of pace was never really exposed and at the lower level lack of stature is less of a handicap.
The PL is full of big, strong, quick athletes. Bridcutt was clearly going to struggle and should be more comfortable back in the Championship, next season with Sunderland.
 


El Turi

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Aug 13, 2005
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Because of the way he acted to get his move to Sunderland and the fact he's never bothered to acknowledge the part BHA played in his career development by picking him off the scrap heap, he's the ex Brighton player I dislike the most so it does amuse me how much he is hated up there.
 


Thunder Bolt

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How were his performances ' comfortably PL standard ' ?
The standard within the Championship is well below that of the top division. Its like saying a batsman who is piling up the runs in county cricket is showing 'test match form '
You only truly know how a player is going to perform at a higher level when he is at that level. Bridcutt looked good for us fetching and carrying from the back four. His lack of pace was never really exposed and at the lower level lack of stature is less of a handicap.
The PL is full of big, strong, quick athletes. Bridcutt was clearly going to struggle and should be more comfortable back in the Championship, next season with Sunderland.

Have you forgotten that we beat Premier League teams in the cups? Sunderland with Steve Bruce, Newcastle twice.
 




cloud

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Here, there and everywhere
Not to mention Chelsea ...

We had a good Team back then, which brought out the best in players. Oatway also left and hasn't been able to replicate his success elsewhere,. likewise Kuszczak, Wayne Bridge etc
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Have you forgotten that we beat Premier League teams in the cups? Sunderland with Steve Bruce, Newcastle twice.
I was going to 100% agree with you, that first Newcastle game especially Bridcutt absolutely bossed it, but it's also true that those teams weren't at full 'Premier League' strength. And none of them really took the Cups that seriously.
 


WATFORD zero

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The fact is that we played the perfect style that he had been developed in. It suited him completely and he excelled in that role, doing an exceptional job and deservedly winning Player of the Season twice. On the few occasions he played for Oscar, he was asked to play a more expansive role and I thought he looked a different player. I don't believe he is capable of doing what Kayal, Stephens or Ince are asked to do.

When Gus left, he was convinced (by Gus) that him and Gus could do exactly the same at Sunderland. (I suspect because Gus genuinely believed that ALL his success at Brighton was down to himself !) Unfortunately, it's a different team in a different league making different demands on him and he has been found wanting.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Poyets style is now easily worked out push high up the pitch to force mistakes, very one dimensional no plan B Poyet has no knew ideas and niether has Bridcutt.
A manager that cant get any goals out of Defoe is stupid or playimg the wrong system for his style CMS anyone?
 




Greg Bobkin

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Billy in Bristol

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