Brian Clough documentary

[Man of Harveys]

Football was just so much BETTER then. It just WAS.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

I saw up to 23:20 when I had to watch the track world cup cycling, (2 bronze, 2 silver).

So I hope I can see the end on a watch again, so far they only have the half hour Yorkshire Calender programme broadcast the day Clough was sacked, with Don Reevie also present. Can you imagine that happening now, Micky Adams alongside Dean Wilkins the Friday night before Millwall live on TV.

http://www.itv.com/ITVPlayer/Video/default.html?ViewType=5&Filter=38208

 

[fosters headband]

I would have loved to see a similar interview of Dean Wilkins after his sacking due to player unrest.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Who couldn't watch and chuckle at all those old Cloughisms. It was an enjoyable nostalgic trip. With some classic archive it also nailed the Greenwood stitch up for England manager. It was a little bit "tributey" and didn't really explain how his drinking towards the end of his career affected his judgement and it also hugely underplayed the crucial role Peter Taylor played in identifying the players they brought. Dave MacKay was a massive and key Derby signing. Everything changed for them after that yet wasn't even referred to. The thing which annoyed me was people like Johnny Giles' failure to understand "The Damned United" is actually fiction, albeit based on real events, with the central idea being to try and get into the head of Brian Clough. Too much was made of that. Peace has never claimed it's the "truth." But it was enjoyable and at times, poignant and moving. For any Clough aficionados, for the warts and all story, read the Hamilton book -the best and most balanced account on Clough.

 

[superseagulls]

Piss. I forgot all about this.
Is it likely to be repeated on one of the murky ITV channels ?

Yes mate it is repeated 3rd april on ITV4 8pm

 

[The Large One]

On his relationship with Peter Taylor, Clough was once quoted, "I'm just the shop front, he's the goods out the back..."

I did like the exchange in the street.

Reporter: "What are you immediate plans now, Brian?"
Clough: "I'm going to have some lunch now. You should too, you look awful..."

 

[simmo]

Or when they arrived for the signing ceremony and Cloughie came in his sports gear with a squash racket!

That was so funny. There's Francis the first million pound player ever in Britain, a huge event in British football and at the official photo call and signing on cermony there is Cloughie with his squash racket pretending to whack Francis over the head with it.

 

[Sweeney Todd]

Peace's book, The Damned United, gives an accurate account of Clough's time with Albion. It is on the record that Clough went on The Big Match, the day after the 8-2 defeat by Bristol Rovers, and called the Brighton team "an absolute disgrace" and that he accused Albion's players of "shirking all moral responsibility". This from a man who spent one day a week in Brighton during the nine months that he managed the Albion. He spent most of those nine months agitating for the England manager's job, trying to get his old job at Derby back, basking in the hospitality of the Shah of Iran, and denigrating Don Revie and Leeds United in his newspaper columns and on television. This from a man who was paid by Mike Bamber a handsome sign-on fee and a salary twice what he was earning at Derby County.

I won't deny that Clough was a great manager. But he showed Brighton & Hove Albion no respect whatsoever.

 

[Easy 10]

Yes mate it is repeated 3rd april on ITV4 8pm

Excellent. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Questions]

A personality the likes of which football won't be allowed to see again.

Spot on. We have so called characters nowadays but they know nowt compared to our Brian. Imagine an English manager who had won the European cup twice, the league championship twice, both times with so called unfashionable clubs not getting the England gig. What a f***ing bunch of gutless pricks the FA were.
Mind you would a manager as politically incorrect as Cloughie ever get a chance in todays world bearing in mind he apparently once called some African players a bunch of spearchuckers.
IMO though he stood for all that was good in the game. football played the way it should be with skill, respect for the officials and the odd backhander to keep everyone sweet,.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It is on the record that Clough went on The Big Match, the day after the 8-2 defeat by Bristol Rovers, and called the Brighton team "an absolute disgrace" and that he accused Albion's players of "shirking all moral responsibility".

Shame we're now reduced to having managers prattling on about giving the players a cuddle when they patently - and publicly - need seven shades of shit ripping out of them.

 

[Sweeney Todd]

Shame we're now reduced to having managers prattling on about giving the players a cuddle when they patently - and publicly - need seven shades of shit ripping out of them.

I dread to think what Clough would say about our present squad. The league table says that the present group of players are worse than the players that Clough had to work with.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

The best programme ITV have produced in such a long time. I can't wait to see The Damned United now.

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

Football was just so much BETTER then. It just WAS.

But the 'quality' on show is so much better now





Football was better then. Anyone saying otherwise is either too young or deluded.

 

[Jam The Man]

http://www.itv.com/ITVPlayer/Video/default.html?ViewType=5&Filter=38208

that was excellent

 

[Jam The Man]

Great programme.

The Clough Family didn't seem to be too impressed with the Book/Film though.

Whilst i understand their view, they are struggling to separate the fact that the book/film has lots of FICTION, built around a FACT

 

[Jam The Man]

Have any of you read "Provided you don't kiss me" by Duncan Hamilton? It's an excellent book on Clough, from the highs to the lows.

One story stood out that Hamilton relays. Clough was in Nottingham when a fan and his young son approach him, the dad says his son has saved up all his pocket money for the game today. Clough hands them two tickets and says enjoy it on me lads.

Just can't imagine that happening anymore.

Great book - i'm 3/4 through

 

[Questions]

Brilliant stuff there in that interview. Cloughie was having to defend himself - unnessersarily IMO - for most of that interview without ever really taking his gloves off. What people have to remember nowadays is how hated Leeds Utd were in those seasons with their bullying and harrassing of officials (sound familiar) and their dirty tactics when they were under the cosh. Youngsters nowadays would struggle to believe how nasty some of their side could become. Of course they could play a bit as well, that goes without saying but I would have loved to have seen those two men back in a studio after Clough had won successive European cups with Forest and Revie and scuttled off to The U.A.E. after negotiating a cracking financial deal whilst still contracted to the FA as England manager. The difference is between those two men is that Revie would have declined that interview because he was a rat.

 

[Kenhead]

I've been really looking forward to seeing The Damned United, i've got a cineworld pass and so thought that would be my sunday sorted only to find they aren't showing it down the Marina one so am not happy.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Yes mate it is repeated 3rd april on ITV4 8pm

Phew. Couldn't find it on the ITV Player last night, only the Clough v Revie binfest (which is excellent).

His move from the Albion to Leeds was the equivalent of Adams going from the Albion to Man Utd these days. Amazing.

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