[Politics] Brexit

[daveinplzen]

Top post.

Like it or not (some of us do like it, but realise some others do not) we move on. The continuing bile and negativity of a few reminds me all the time of Bob Geldoff's foul-mouthed rant through a megaphone on the banks of the Thames the day after the referendum; childish and petulant.

To what?

 

[Mo Gosfield]

So does that mean there will be jelly and ice cream or there won’t be jelly and ice cream?

Not in the Gosfield household, can't stand triumphalism and will be in bed before the rubbish even starts.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

When will the negativity end?

When the situation becomes positive?




Or if.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I shall be adopting an "I told you so" attitude, and I'm not even sorry. It didn't have to be so, but the sheer pig-headed refusal of many Brexiters to acknowledge even basic facts or countenance any form of compromise have left me unable to do anything else. They can't claim there will be no downsides, then when the downsides come claim they knew but didn't care. Hypocrisy is one thing I absolutely cannot stand.

None of us will really know the extent of downsides or upsides for quite some time. In my opinion, it will be 8-10 years before a judgement can be made as to the wisdom of this decision and by then, no one knows how the EU itself will look.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Its for those in power that made all the promises its time to deliver. They did everything they could to hide from scrutiny during election and they are still doing it now.

They need to be held to account on every word....

Agree with that.
Its about time they got it into their thick heads that unless they start helping business, particularly the small and medium sized ( which is the lifeblood of this country ) and not keep sucking it dry like some sort of willing ' cash cow ' the country will not re-invigorate. The country needs this sector energised and incentivised to wealth create to enable us to invest more and more into Health, Education and Public Services.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Where as replacing the EU deal and the other 40 EU trade deals could be exactly as the Brexiteers called it 'The easiest deal in history' and be wrapped up by the end of the year.

I guess that we will find out over the next 11 months

Exciting times

Regards
DF

 

[wellquickwoody]

Shhhh. You don’t even live in this country.

Yeah, I had the balls to actually leave but still love the place. You threw your toys out publically, screamed that you were leaving, and then bottled it. Now you just sit on the sidelines moaning, not exactly a strong position to opine from.

 

[The Clamp]

Yeah, I had the balls to actually leave but still love the place. You threw your toys out publically, screamed that you were leaving, and then bottled it. Now you just sit on the sidelines moaning, not exactly a strong position to opine from.

Who cares. You done even live in the country

You don’t even live in Europe :-0

 

[WATFORD zero]

Yeah, I had the balls to actually leave but still love the place. You threw your toys out publically, screamed that you were leaving, and then bottled it. Now you just sit on the sidelines moaning, not exactly a strong position to opine from.

...

 

[WATFORD zero]

Yeah, I had the balls to actually leave but still love the place. You threw your toys out publically, screamed that you were leaving, and then bottled it. Now you just sit on the sidelines moaning, not exactly a strong position to opine from.

Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression that somebody regrets what they've done and thinks that if everyone else is in the shit, then it somehow justifies the decision they made

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression that somebody regrets what they've done and thinks that if everyone else is in the shit, then it somehow justifies the decision they made

Don't have nightmares
Regards
DF

 

[vegster]

Agree with that.
Its about time they got it into their thick heads that unless they start helping business, particularly the small and medium sized ( which is the lifeblood of this country ) and not keep sucking it dry like some sort of willing ' cash cow ' the country will not re-invigorate. The country needs this sector energised and incentivised to wealth create to enable us to invest more and more into Health, Education and Public Services.

5th biggest economy in the world, 26th place when it comes to wealth per capita. Ergo, a few people have LOTS of money and that isn't going to change under Johnson.

 

[Flex Your Head]

This is a genuinely illuminating (and ultimately worrying) article. Would love for some of the pro-Brexit crew to read this and explain how they believe we will be in any way better off than we are now.

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/20...rything-you-need-to-know-about-johnson-s-trad

 

[wellquickwoody]

Maybe it's just me, but I get the impression that somebody regrets what they've done and thinks that if everyone else is in the shit, then it somehow justifies the decision they made

Yeah, course, carry on.

 

[GT49er]

People are entitled to believe and act however they want (provided it is lawful).

Yes, being childish and petulant is not illegal. It's strange how some people are proud of it, or at best manage to achieve it in blithe ignorance of what they're doing.

 

[nicko31]

An in depth piece of Johnson's upcoming trade deal speaking to expert economists who have a grasp of the subject

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/20...rything-you-need-to-know-about-johnson-s-trad

Once the plates of finest Unicorn steak have been cleared away at Wetherspoons on the 31st, the hard part of Brexit begins

Few a clips...

The effect on Brexit hardlands…
Well there's a cruel irony to the effects of a hard Brexit: It won't really hurt Remain-voting areas but it's likely to seriously damage Brexit-supporting areas.
The kinds of industries which could get really pummelled - automobile, aerospace and that - are mainly based in the Midlands and the North. Remain-voting London, on the other hand, is less exposed to European markets.

On fish…
Britain wants to talk about fish separately to everything else. But the Europeans aren't having any of that.


On plan for Northern Ireland…
He doesn't have one. How that plays out, against the background of Irish politics and the prospect of sudden infrastructure and monitoring arrangements, and impossible timetables, is anyone's guess. But one thing is clear: No responsible person would have done this.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Unemployment at an all time low. This is how it's done.

Sack 3,000 managers. Employ 7000 workers on zero hours contracts at £9 an hour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51223217

 

[A1X]

Yes, being childish and petulant is not illegal. It's strange how some people are proud of it, or at best manage to achieve it in blithe ignorance of what they're doing.

What you regard as childish and petulant is not what others would term as such. Many would say that continuing to believe being in the EU is the right thing to do is simply an expression of a legitimate opinion. That you don't like it doesn't make it "childish" or "petulant", indeed referring to it as such might just as easily be labelled so.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Unemployment at an all time low. This is how it's done.

Sack 3,000 managers. Employ 7000 workers on zero hours contracts at £9 an hour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51223217

I'm not 100% clear on how this relates to a 'Brexit' thread but there you go.

Sometimes, I agree, it's just nice to get something off your chest.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Yes, being childish and petulant is not illegal. It's strange how some people are proud of it, or at best manage to achieve it in blithe ignorance of what they're doing.

You're right - one of NSC Leave's finest (whilst jeering at those who go out in the weather to try - unsuccessfully as it happens - to change things) has happily stated on here that he prefers to sit at home and wind up his opponents.

He has less and less success as time goes by, but he keeps on trying.

As you say, it's strange.