[Politics] Brexit

[CheeseRolls]

Aside from the legal arguments it is perfectly true. Remainers are trying to remain, leavers are trying to leave. Corbyn is... well I have no idea what he's trying to do.

It's a round hole, the square block doesn't fit in there.

Leavers who want to leave with a no deal < 100%
Leavers who want to leave by breaking the law < 100%
Numbers who understand what all leave voters want = 0

 

[WATFORD zero]

Not Boris as he would have acted on advice from his legal team which obviously differs from the 11 judges.

I didn't ask who wasn't traitorous as I would hope that is a fairly long list.

I asked who has been traitorous as it was you that said 'they sent traitors to the Tower not lauded them in courts.'

So who HAS been traitorous and how ?

 

[BensGrandad]

Boris has lied to the Queen. Can you get more traitorous than that?

…...I'm saying this slightly tongue in cheek. I think this is just all showing Mr Johnson up to be the cack-handed incompetent bungling buffoon that many people suspected. If BREXIT does happen by October 31st, it will be despite him rather than because of him.

What you and others will not accept is that he wouldnt have made the decision on his own back with out advice.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

But does reckon after Brexit we can ban the sale of shark fin soup (sorry Boris, already banned by the EU some years ago). More lies as usual...

If you're going to try and use the word lies then at least tell the truth ! Sharks caught in EU waters HAVE to have their fins still attached by LAW. Shark fin soup is NOT banned.

 

[pb21]

Boris Johnson is speaking on Sky News now.

He says he disagrees with the court’s decision.

He says it is usual to have a Queen’s speech now.

Parliament won’t allow an election, but it does not want prorogation either, he says.

Q: Have you run out of options?

On the contrary, Johnson says.

He says he is trying to get a deal.

He says this case has not made his task any easier.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...08f30dc5bc16a6#block-5d8a08798f08f30dc5bc16a6

I though this prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit, but Johnson here, seems to suggest that not being able to close Parliament makes Brexit harder to achieve.

Is there too much paraphrasing, did anyone see the interview?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I am not sure your 3rd point is right as I am sure that if it happened in HH and Sir Nicholas Soames stood as an independent he would walk in.

On my third point, Winchester as a constituency voted firmly remain and has been a Lib-Dem seat until comparatively recently. Boundary Changes might affect it, we shall see, but Brine has not been around long enough to have any significant personal support......

 

[BensGrandad]

I didn't ask who wasn't traitorous as I would hope that is a fairly long list.

So who has been traitorous as it was you that said 'they sent traitors to the Tower not lauded them in courts.'

So who has been traitorous and how ?

The remainer MPs and supporters who want to keep fighting and wont accept that they lost the referendum.

 

[WATFORD zero]

The remainer MPs and supporters who want to keep fighting and wont accept that they lost the referendum.

So basically you believe that anyone who doesn't agree with you are 'traitors who should be sent to the tower'. (And even the most conservative estimates would put that some way north of 10 million British citizens.)

Maybe if you believe that you should take them to court

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Still leaving , get ready for Brexit
Regards
DF

 

[Grombleton]

The remainer MPs and supporters who want to keep fighting and wont accept that they lost the referendum.

So Johnson, who has effectively been proven to have lied to QUEEN AND COUNTRY isn't a traitor, but people who voted to remain are?

And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

 

[Bwian]

The remainer MPs and supporters who want to keep fighting and wont accept that they lost the referendum.

It's probably an opportune moment to remind you, and others, that your Darling Nigel said that had the referendum result been in favour of remain, with same numbers, he would be continually pressing for another vote.

Perhaps you can explain the difference?


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[WATFORD zero]

If you're going to try and use the word lies then at least tell the truth ! Sharks caught in EU waters HAVE to have their fins still attached by LAW. Shark fin soup is NOT banned.

Well it was certainly worth the 4 day wait since your last Brexit missive for that extremely critical and absolute game changer of a post. I'm sure that knowing that, many people will now totally re-examine their position on Brexit

 

[Dick Swiveller]

wasn't that Roy Walker?

Maybe Crodo isn't as clever as I thought - it really is easy.

 

[highflyer]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...08f30dc5bc16a6#block-5d8a08798f08f30dc5bc16a6

I though this prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit, but Johnson here, seems to suggest that not being able to close Parliament makes Brexit harder to achieve.

Is there too much paraphrasing, did anyone see the interview?

I did, or at least part of it. Extraordinary. In denial.
I wondered if he hadn't been briefed on the fact that it was unanimous and just how damning the verdict itself was.
As described by the BBC guy - he looked like a man in a VERY deep hole.

 

[Bwian]

And you think his legal team is more important than 11 Supreme Court judges?
You are truly clueless.

Don't ask him about Left Backs for God's sake.

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[nicko31]

The remainer MPs and supporters who want to keep fighting and wont accept that they lost the referendum.

We're keep fighting to preserve our democracy for our sake, and actually for other countries elsewhere that also use our system.

 

[CheeseRolls]

What you and others will not accept is that he wouldnt have made the decision on his own back with out advice.

I'm a Republican and should really rule myself out on this one, but I can assure you that in a popularity contest between the Queen and Boris Johnson, there will only be one winner. It is Her Majesty's Government and if she can not trust her Prime Minister, he can not stay in post. The best way for this to happen and not drag the monarch into this constitutional mess, in the same way that the judiciary is now implicated is for the Tory party to manage this internally. The alternative is a lot worse and for the Monarch to ACTUALLY have to sack a prime minister, I am lost for words. This isn't the end of Brexit, it is but a flesh wound. It is the end of Boris Johnson though.

 

[pb21]

I did, or at least part of it. Extraordinary. In denial.
I wondered if he hadn't been briefed on the fact that it was unanimous and just how damning the verdict itself was.
As described by the BBC guy - he looked like a man in a VERY deep hole.

Thing is he is making it sound like this 5-week prorogation being deemed unlawful, is adversely affecting his chances of delivering Brexit.

In which case he thinks a closed parliament for 5-weeks helps his chances.

But presumably that isn’t what he told the Queen?

 

[Bwian]

As described by the BBC guy - he looked like a man in a VERY deep hole.

Never mind. Kuenssberg will be throwing him a rope to try and get him out of the hole.

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[highflyer]

Thing is he is making it sound like this 5-week prorogation being deemed unlawful, is adversely affecting his chances of delivering Brexit.

In which case he thinks a closed parliament for 5-weeks helps his chances.

But presumably that isn’t what he told the Queen?

The hole is getting deeper.

What I am looking forward to is when Domminic Cummings goes full Sir Chicken Digby Ceasar and starts his drunken public rampage through Westminster incoherently ranting about his genius, the world being against him and trying to hit anyone he suspects of being old and/or a judge. It has to happen at some point.